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Originally Posted by island911

AH, the idiots whom believe times are worse now than When BJ Bill left.

Not to mention the intelligent ones!

When the US military was dumping resources into keeping Saddam and his army contained in the middle of Iraq . . while his boys took pot-shots at our passing planes ...

None of which pot-shots hit any of the (COALITION OF MANY NATIONS!) planes, IIRC. And, IIRC, weren't those pot-shooting ground based radar sites then immediately bombed out of existence? Not to mention that his air force was obliterated, inspections were ongoing and Saddam was contained and effectively harmless (other than to the poor souls living under his regime, unfortunately - BUT, their sad state of existence was NOT what we had set out to rectify).

while the FRENCH funneled money to Saddam,

IIRC, Saddam misappropriated a lot of money from a number of UN approved sources (didn't the FRENCH have troops on the ground for a period of time (fighting on our side))?

and Saddam paid-off the families of every "suicide bomber" .. .

Yup, he was one nasty feller indeed (kinda like Iran, with whom he was in cahoots sponsoring world-wide terrorism - uh...I may not have that quite right ).

while women in Afghanistan were stoned to death for slight defiance of a hyper-religious protocol.

I'm not aware that what we did in Afghanistan, as part of a COALITION OF MANY NATIONS! provoked the negative response around the world that our adventure in Iraq has.

While OBL pulled the trigger on his second attempt on the WTC. Ah yes, the idiots were quiet back then.

Probably true, always lotsa idiots around. However, there were also the intelligent ones who were guilty of bad judgement in the heat of the moments leading up to our attack (as well as having been, dare I say "perhaps" misguidance by disinformation masked as intelligence (or intelligence spun or withheld)).

Lacking the stubborness and conviction that "God is on our side!" evidenced by our Supreme Commander, many soon reevaluated the whole mess and voiced their new perspective on the matter (freakin' flip-floppers got smarter and freakin' flip-flopped!).

..Back when they hid their idiocy well. --good times.

True. But even most of those "idiots" probably wouldn't look back and call those "good times .

By the way, regarding "BJ Bill": in that humorous vein I suspect that there are those who oppose your views that could quip that Bush wouldn't be around to kick around if it had been but a BJ fifty some years ago (but that transcends bashing and is downright disrespectful!).

We do agree that forged is superior to cast though (you haven't flip-flopped on that, have you ?).

Originally Posted by SLO-BOB

Wow! Classic ressurrection. I had to double take the 1st comments until I saw the date. Then it all made sense.

I don't think pointing out the faults of the previous administration exonerates the current one. I also don't think pointing out the faults of the current administration is time well spent at this point in time either. It's too easy and what more can be said? There's simply too much material.

So who bothers to read nowadays? Like Tabs sez, we're all a bunch of TV addicted idiots. Wait! I object!

Now, lets talk about the "new" Afghanistan - Pakistan....... which was a problem before Afghanistan as Tabs pointed out. Who the heck would want to preside over this mess? Vote for the guy(gal) you like the least because they will bear the brunt of current times. I fall back on my comments from years back. Time to step back and let them sort it out. Call it isolationism if you want. We have no business there. Homeland security is where it's at and it doesn't have to happen by manipulating foriegn policy, which we have proved is ineffective.

Count me in on having that opinion as well.

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

These are miniscule problems compared with many of the ones we face today. But you know that.

Unfortunately, unwavering adherence to one's party line (whatever party) makes that difficult or impossible to admit certain things (and perpetuates the stultifying divisiveness that pervades our country today).

I don't think you want to use "whom" in this case.

Picky, picky, Shaun .

You may want to stick to iPhones from here on out.

Originally Posted by Superman

...Dubya is hands-down, BY FAR the worst president in American history.

He is a COLOSSAL failure. In fact, it would be better if his performance was limited to just a COLOSSAL FAILURE. Sadly, his decisions have been worse than that.

I believe that history will find what you claim to be incontrovertible - too bad nothing could have been done about it in real time.

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