View Single Post
jwasbury jwasbury is offline
beancounter
 
jwasbury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Weehawken, NJ
Posts: 3,593
Quote:
Originally Posted by einreb View Post
This is all fuzzy to me, but MTM means that if you have a 'thing' that currently does not have a buyer... then it has no value. However, some of these 'things' still produce income and if held to maturity may still be paid back... so it has some value, no?
I believe the official name for MTM accounting rules is "Fair Value" accounting. In the case of a 'thing' that has no buyer, but generates cash flow where the timing and amounts are reasonably assured, then it does have a value (and can be quantified using a discounted present value method).

I think that the problem with the CDOs and other mortgage backed derivatives is that there was so much uncertainty surrounding the timing or amount of cash flows that it was not possible to value them in this manner, so firms had to look to the secondary market = 0.

Agree that extreme care must be taken in messing with Fair value accounting rules as they should result in more transparency. A slackening of rules certainly could allow some of the mess to be "swept under the rug."
__________________
Jacob
Current: 1983 911 GT4 Race Car / 1999 Spec Miata / 2000 MB SL500 / 1998 MB E300TD / 1998 BMW R1100RT / 2016 KTM Duke 690
Past: 2009 997 Turbo Cab / 1979 930
Old 10-29-2008, 10:49 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)