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Burgermeister! Thank you! I think that is what I am seeing....I'll run through my jacking process again and keep an eye on the front of the car....and I suspect that the pivot is around the tubes! whew....not so say that there still might be some "R" issues in there, but I don't see the tubes deflecting or bending under load, and as stated before, rust is not resiliant - ie it does not 'bounce back' once compressed.
thanks all who helped me on this....what a great resource to have!! the collective brain!!
cheers
td
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