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Originally Posted by Tim Hancock View Post
Because they have a fixed pitch propellor that even under full power, will not allow the engine to over speed. Different animals than the T6 you have been complaining about last week.

I like you Milt, but I am d@mn glad you are not my neighbor living next to my backyard runway or my shooting range or my MX track in the side yard.
As one person, you couldn't possibly annoy me. If you ran a flight school out of your back yard, or shot your weapons for 12 hours a day, I'd be miserable. So would anyone else.

And, I wasn't necessarily complaining about the T6, but I did point out that he was definitely prolific in his ability to make a LOT of passes in and hour's time whereas the typical student can make 7 landings in one lesson. Historic aircraft are fun to see. Believe it of not, I go to airshows!

Now, to be sure, the banner draggers can be annoying. If I want to have a BBQ outside at my house, we just have to talk between flights or go inside. This can be for other situations as well such as multiple students in the air at one time. The frequency of take offs is pretty well saturated at 2 minute intervals with about 15 seconds of no talk on each take off. So that's 30 times an hour that we have to hold our thought momentarily. Not a good time to tell a long joke.

This does not happen all that frequently, and when it does, it's usually a bit earlier on Sat morning, not BBQ time. BBQ time might see a max of 15 flights plus the commercial aircraft. Still, even this is not regular. It's seasonal and based on the economic times.

I was born a mile from the airport. I'm still in my home town. When the airport was expanded during WWII, the reason was our defense as Douglas Aircraft was based at LBG. They said they would never use the airport for anything but military aircraft and the small amount of private planes that existed at that time.

Well we see where that went.

Now, the only thing I am against is the commercial use of an airport that is surrounded 360* by housing with a combined community population of 1M. Directly impacted by flight paths and noise are only about 25,000 people out of the million. There are 8 million more north of us that have a similar percentage of impacted residences from LAX. At least LAX has retrofitted 100's of homes with STC windows. LGB has never offered any assistance.

But, back to the "commercial" use. Say there were no flight schools or other commercial operations like banner draggers. I could live perfectly well with that. I know you have the right and freedom to fly just like the fuzznuts that ride Harleys with straight pipes. It's America, goddamnit, and let's do some recreating.

But, take your commercial business somewhere where you don't fly dangerous, inexperienced or unduly noisy aircraft over houses and schools. We don't watch the nightly news at 6, because quite frankly, we can't hear the TV for some of the broadcast.

Tim, you couldn't possibly have that much impact. But, if you were 100 Tims, you would not be my favorite person.
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