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[QUOTE=jwhcars;4868783]I have three sons and thru have been eating out since they where infants. When one would act up one of us would take him out to the car and there we stayed until he was ready to rejoin the others. Yes there where times we did not go back inside but they all learned to behave or go hungry :-)[/QUOTE]


Quote from "berettafan":

"idealism is fantastic. then you have kids and learn about reality.
or you don't have kids and just go through the rest of your life believing you know better than every parent you witness having difficulty with their child."

With all due respect to "berettafan" I can't buy this line of thinking... the "then you have kids and learn about reality" thing. This is so much like some people I currently know and how they choose to not deal with the deplorable behavior of some of their kids... that "kids will be kids" thing. And again the reasoning doesn't hold water for me.

See the first quote above. This man sounds like my dad and mom! My sister and I learned to behave. They had it down to a science. They took us everywhere when we were kids... couldn't afford a baby sitter I suppose, and if we started to act up, get out of line, etc., we'd usually get one warning. After that one warning it was On if we didn't straighten up fast. They were so good at it that all it took was a Look to make us stop cold in our tracks and behave.

I'm not saying they were like "Bull Meacham" in "The Great Santini" (I think I remember that character's name) They weren't brutal but they had a handle on us.

I have friends who have well behaved kids that I have never even heard raise their voices when around adults. I see others on a regular basis through my job. I also see hellions that need to be carried behind the woodshed, as they used to say "back in the day."

As far as this line: "you don't have kids and just go through the rest of your life believing you know better than every parent you witness having difficulty with their child." I don't think for a minute that I know better than every parent that has difficulty with their child(ren). I just believe it is possible to live in "reality" with kids that do know how to behave.

Again, I mean no disrespect to "berettafan."
I'm just sayin'.