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Originally Posted by sammyg2
Who does ther violin belong to?
Did grandpa give it to the wife to play, or to own?
If the MIL gave it to someone else, then clearly the wife did not own it and had no claim to it. It was mearly loaned to her.
Technically it belonged to the MIL (inhereted from her husband or joint property, whichever), and she gave it to the SIL.
Same question, was that give it to play or give it to own?
If the MIL gave it to the SIL to own, then it belongs to her. If she merely LOANED it to hte SIl for her kid to play, then it still belongs to the mIL.
Is she still around? if not it goes to probate and the SIL keeps it.
What you are planning to do is sneaky and borderline dishonest. You are trying to trick someone out of it, to CON it away even though you have no legal claim to it.
My conscience would not allow me to pull something like that.
You have to look yourself in the mirror. Are you OK with donig things like that, is that the type of person you are OK with being?
If I were you and you're glad I'm not, I'd go buy my daughter an instrument equal to her talent and move on.
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The violin belongs to my wife.
It was gifted to her.
Her mother lent it, without my wife's knowledge or permission because my MIL has a habit of doing **** without asking.
SIL either misinterpreted MIL's actions or intentionally interpreted MIL's actions to her benefit.
Either is possible with her.
EDIT: I fail to see how asking him for it is sneaky or dishonest.
I have my mothers 190SL. It's the 7th car off the line from the 1st production year and is possibly the oldest one still around. Two owner car. It's worth an easy 6 figures on a bad day. To me it has zero monetary value. If I keep it it's worth nothing because I don't have the money in hand. If I sell it it's still worth nothing because if i bank the money I don't have the benefit of using it. If I sell it and spend the money I have nothing.
I keep it because it means something to me that goes beyond the "value" of the car.
This is a similar situation for my wife and daughter. What the thing is or is not worth is not part of the equation for us.