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Originally Posted by stormcrow

You talk about reverse the gases but you have yet to explain just how it's done. Now I am not a rocket scientist but I do know a little bit about A/C and how it works regardless of it being in a car or in a house.

So I have to ask - just where are you reversing the gasses - or is that a trick question but instead should be "where are you reversing the flow of the gases".

He means reversing the order of the flow through the 2 condensers. Factory
has the rear lid condenser first in the flow, KeloGes has the front lip condenser first. Same amount of condensing effectiveness either way, just now less work being done by the rear lid condenser, cooler running engine.

Much like reversing the order of flow with the 2 condensers in my frost-free frig, the drip pan water would accumulate , not evaporate away as readily as otherwise.


The only time I have ever experienced "reverse flow gases" is on a heat pump and none of the cars that I am aware of have a heat pump design.

Secondly you show a picture of the high and low pressure side of the refrigerant lines. Well I have to ask - you comment that the low pressure is around 3 or 4 psi yet the temperature of the air flow is around 35 - 37 average temp.

Even worse, that's MINUS 3-4 PSI...!!

If you are using 134-A refrigerant the temperature at 3 - 4 pis would be around -5 to -8 degrees F.
In addition to that you also include in your comments that you only use around .95 lbs of refrigerant.

KeloGes subscribes, apparently, to the Griffiths school of thought regarding the (CCOT) method of charging our TXV systems. Charging just to the point of minimum vent temperature. TXV out of flow modulation range, evaporator freeze up unless the thermostatic switch is properly "calibrated".

Even so, 0.95 seems low.

I have to say you surely have me baffeled because if you measure the diameter and length of the lines to get the correct volume, and calculate the volume of using two condensing units there is no way you are only using .95 lbs of refrigerant.

If what you say is true about the amount of refrigerant, then the lines would have to be around 1/8" diameter along with the condensing units.

I think you want everyone to believe that you have this great invention that you won't tell anyone about and want us to believe you know what you are talking about -

But I really don't want to say it I don't think you know what you are talking about. For if you did you would have explained it already.

And as far as your concern for others taking away your secrets, I don't think you have any to be taken away.

I have been working in the HVAC industry since 1965 working on chillers air handling units, ammonia systems and anything else related to the HVAC industry.

I know you can make water boil at 33F under the right circumstances but when it comes to claiming that you can keep an evaporator coil from freezing based on your pressures of 3 or 4 PSI that reaks of not knowing what you are talking about.

Hmmm... Maybe his PFC "invention" has that much restriction to flow..?

You can claim to get the condensing coil temperatures down with your PFC but that's about as far as you can go with your claim.

Unless you can provide a descriptive flow chart showing just what you are talking about when you speak of reverse gas flow - you will continually be discredited because no one believes you know what you are talking about.

Now don't take this as a criticism but take it as a response from all your posts from someone who has been working in the HVAC industry for quite some time.

And should you do want to discredit me by saying I do not know what I am talking about, you are going to have to prove me wrong by you coming clean with proof - not just by saying I put it out there you figure it out. Any dummy can do that.

KeloGes isn't just any dummy, he tops the list.