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George, keep in mind that the bikes I shown you are race / sports oriented so they are not so good for touring up the cost to enjoy the view going slow. I have seen many people do nothing but ride organized centuries and have a $ 9000 full on race bike with deep dish carbon wheels only to ride the damn thing at 12 miles with no benefit but hurt their shoulders and ass along the way so, be careful with your purchase. If you want to go fast, and enjoy great feed back with every pedal stroke, then you may want to look into a sport/ race oriented bike, otherwise buy a sports/ touring bike. They make those in Carbon now and are pretty light. I find them lazy coming out of a turn but super stable. Better climbing gears with trip. rings up front and much cheaper too. They can be has for about 1000-1500 bucks.