Anyone running Zeitronix?
 

Anyone out there running Zeitronix on there 911/930? I like the fact that the ZT-2 can monitoring Air/Fuel ratio, Boost, EGT, RPM datalogging up to 9 hours of data..

Also curious to see if anyone has mounted the LCD display in a 911 and where it was put.

Some of my friends with riced STI's and Balls out Supra's swear by zeitronix and have no complaints other than the boost sensor costing $100.

When comparing both systems I am leaning more towards Zietronix and with being able to display 4 outputs this scores pretty high for me but I know from reading this form that LM-1 wins the popularity contest.

If anyone has expierence with the Zeitronix in a 911 please post your comments.

Zeitronix ($399 with display):
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm

LM-1 ($349+plus $589 for the Aux Box ):
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/lm1.php

We are running the Zt-2 on several turbo/supercharged cars
and I like them a lot, quality and support is great.

I want to put one in my 930, but still the exhaust is not ready.
The display I plan to put on top of center console.

One big advantage of the ZT-2 is a programmable relay trigger
and alarm beeper.
For example at 4000rpm and 0,4 bar a relay can be switched.
A boost solenoid can be switched with this.
Or above 5000rpm and above 14 AFR alarm will beep or flash.


Falk

I've been running one for about 2 years now, and really like it. The readout fits nicely in the stock ashtray opening.

I am planning on doing precisely this...in addition, I will be logging: rpm, boost, afr, and fuel pressure.

Coupled with a Brian Leask WUR...I think I will be pretty well tuned.

I don't know exactly what Zeitronix has lined up but I asked them about a round gauge (that might fit in the clock area) and they told me wait until SEMA. ;)

So next week I should know where I want to take it.

I was looking at Innovate but after reading their forums, I wasn't impressed. They have a product that claims to have the configurable triggers (multiple) but the actual product doesn't support the features advertised/in the manual. No time frame as to when they will either.

No first hand experience though.

Problem I see with the round gauge is that it will only disply Air/Fuel which is the same for Innovate but if you use the LCD you can display 4 parameters all together and from what my friends have told me the boost is very acurate.

Falk/Winrice, can you guys take some pictures on where you have the LCD? I have a 993 lower dash so I am not sure if the size's are the same

My taste for the 930 is more the LCD display, the ZR-1 is to modern maybe.
The new ZR-1 round gauge is available, we have tested it here and are impressed.
But wait for SEMA, there will be good news!

ZR-1:
http://www.alumex.de/Dsite/boost/Zei...FRguage400.jpg

Falk

Here you go!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193602000.jpg

Thanks Winrice, I will need to check my 993 lower dash and see if it will fit there. Did you purchase another MAP sensor to measure the boost or did you tap into the stock on?

I'm using the Zeitronix MAP and EGT sensors so I can have independent systems.

Even when I go EFI I'll still keep all the Zeitronix equipment separate, just to have a redundant logging system.

"For example at 4000rpm and 0,4 bar a relay can be switched" mmmmmm this has me now thinking of additional injector controller :) another +1 for Zeitronix

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But wait for SEMA, there will be good news!

So give us a hint about SEMA !!!

Yea I was thinking the same thing, I was just under the impression that the ZR-1 would be the newest and greatest thing from Zeitronix. If there is more than this than I should hold off on my upcoming purchase

Just for your info, the ZT-2 displays measurements:
5x2x1 inches.

Falk

As Sema is over, I can tell that Zeitronix
released the new ZR-2 display.
Its a round display like the above, but you can display
for example AFR on the outer LEDs and either
boost/EGT/AFR/TPS/ or a user def. input with the digits.

I try to get a picture and more details about the function.

Falk

Any idea of size...ie will it fit in the clock position in our cars. That would http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/beerchug.gif.

RT

Now that would be worth waiting for :) hopefully with a reasonable price..

Its a "small" gauge, 52mm.
You will need a spacer to make it fit
in the clock position.

Falk

ZR-2 $139
Zt-2 + ZR-2 $399
ZAVT-1 $69
MAP 3.5 BAR $109

52mm is correct.

And here is a pic.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194275921.jpg

Not bad, but curious on how you switch between different modes. I do not see any buttons or switchs on the bezel or face of the guage..

I'm thinking that gauge may be a bit too busy for the austere Porsche interior.

Other than boost, I doubt I would be checking them regularly. Just some tuning runs logged and then an occasional checkup.

I sure would like a pillar mounted gague pod. Why can't someone make one?!?!?!?!? :mad:

What are you going to do for the rest of your cars systems monitering if you deleate the clock on your C2 Turbo. Like brake faults,fan rotation sensor, and the rest of the systems warnings?

this is why i am still in more favor for the LCD display, just need to see how it will fit in different locctions

Who said delete the clock? You can either mount the boost gauge somewhere else like a-pillar.

Another option if you want the gauge in the clock position is to wrap the clock and put it inside the dash.

I want the a-pillar setup but I can't figure out why the heck no one makes a pod for us.

RT

AG02M5, there are A-pilar pods to buy,
are you sure they dont fit on our cars?

http://www.tuningdirekt.com/catalog/images/660230.jpg

Falk

True, pillar would be a perfect solution but for the 911 I have never seen one that would fit, considering how narrow it is. Some of the ones on ebay are so cheap I guess they could be modified and I remember reading a post some time back that a fellow Pelican did just that. If i remember there was some cutting and melting of the plastic to re-form the fit. Still sounds like a lot of work :(

Yep, no Porsche specific models. Can't fathom why with all the turbo cars. Any idea where that link is for the modification of a non-porsche pod?

RT

Check the post from Juan Ruiz, he modified a cup from a mitsubichi that he cut and molded with a heat gun. Sounds easy but :confused:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194651292.jpg

I did some searching and can't find the post.

That looks pretty darn good and I'm up for the challenge. If you could locate it, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

RT

R.T. Falk was talking about removing clock. It wouldn't do me much good wrapped up in a rag and stuffed in back of dash if I had a fan-belt break and didn't hear it and fried an engine.

http://www.9xauto.com/911.html
try here for a cool guage mount. (Wayne does not carry these)

JP

just looking through older posts of mine and there is a pic that has my zietronix that i picked up for $105 with display off of ebay.the guy had it spelt wrong.i didnt think he was going to ship it but he did.i have it in the vent.running off of a laptop works alot better.if i was to buy new i would skip the display and look into a pda data logger for it.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/355103-hargett-930-shifter-install.html#post3362155
post #5

Wow $105 what a steal!!!

Here is some more info on the display...

There are two ways of selecting displayed values, both done via a front push
button.
1 You can program a start up value (example the gauge start always a boost
gauge)
2 You can cycle through values during operation. Each pres of the button
cycles the gauge to a next value.
Pressing the button for 1 second shows peak and hold values.

The gauge has tinted openings so the light levels are suitable for day and
night operations. It's kind of like all LEDs are already in a dark cavity
(night) There is no blinding light and the is no need for dimming. You will
agree when you see the gauge.


Sounds pretty good to me. However most seem to prefer the analog gauge.