WTB Early 930 Intake Parts

[aerocrosby]

I have a '77 930 engine that is being rebuilt as we speak that the PO had set up for a later OEM intercooler. Since my project will not be using a wing, I need to go back to the standard '76-'77 930 Intake and Piping non-intercooled version.

Anybody have a non-intercooled intake set-up and piping off of a '76 or '77 930 that you are not using? I would be willing to buy outright or trade all my later intercooled parts for (including intercooler).

Please call Scott @ (916)773-7749 or email: aerocrosby@comcast.net

Thanks!
Scott

[spuggy]

Originally Posted by aerocrosby

I have a '77 930 engine that is being rebuilt as we speak that the PO had set up for a later OEM intercooler. Since my project will not be using a wing

I don't have any parts for you, but you know the stock 930 intercooler can be coerced to fit under a duck, right?

[sand_man]

some good pictures of what spuggy is refering to:
Watercooled intercooler system on aircooled 911

[spuggy]

Thanks sand_man - yeh, I was thinking of Cowtown's old car, which I see as the first example photo in the thread, complete with the angle-iron holding the intercooler down

I'd forgotten Brian's full-bay I/C too - that looked like it should work well..

Scott, intercooler is pronounced "engine safety margin & free extra power". You live in Cali. Gets hot there.

Most people fit the most effective intercooler they can find/afford. And the tea-tray spoiler is the most effective at reducing lift at the rear from the body shape.

You could go with a fender-mounted intercooler, like Ruf used:

[sand_man]

Originally Posted by spuggy

You could go with a fender-mounted intercooler, like Ruf used:

INSANE...

[aerocrosby]

Thanks guys for the input. The tea tray spoiler would defeat my "sleeper" appearance but the fender mounted I/C looks interesting. I can see that I have lot's to learn!

regards,
Scott

[sand_man]

Originally Posted by aerocrosby

Thanks guys for the input. The tea tray spoiler would defeat my "sleeper" appearance but the fender mounted I/C looks interesting. I can see that I have lot's to learn!

regards,
Scott

The thing is, I think you're sort of sacrificing some performance for the sake of having a certain aesthetic look - by not having an intercooler of some sorts. Not that the factory 930 intercooler is any great performer, mind you. To me, a "sleeper" should be a real performer...

Edit: I think the duck tail is still a bit of a sleeper.

[356-930]

Originally Posted by aerocrosby

Thanks guys for the input. The tea tray spoiler would defeat my "sleeper" appearance but the fender mounted I/C looks interesting. I can see that I have lot's to learn!

regards,
Scott

1-vote for the sleeper!
How about water/methanol injection to cool things off. Not much weight, very effective (just don't run out of water/meth.)
The below is a stock 3.3 liter with '78 intake parts. Engine stock except SC cams. 300RWHP @1-bar.

[sand_man]

As I've mentioned before in other threads, I really do like the uncluttered no intercooler look that the early Turbos had. And the stock intercooler really can't be adding much performance...she's an old dog. So I guess if you can keep the boost in check and dramatically lighten the car, you'd have your "sleeper".

I think Henry Schmidt of Supertec built a pretty fast 3.0L Turbo engine a while back that had no intercooler, but I'm pretty sure the car had a duck tail.

[kellcats521]

I have a garretson I/C that was designed for retro fit on the non-I/C motors. You'd need to keep your tea-tray wing, but it would work waaaaay better than any OE 930 intercooler.

Let me know if you're interested via PM.

Pat K
87 930 505code

[sand_man]

my idea of a sleeper; prolly one of my all time favorite cars:

[sand_man]

Yep...that's a twin turbo!