Top End Rebuild and Turbo Project underway - Page 5

raceman · 05-09-2008, 10:55 AM

very clean set-up Brinkley, you set the bar there amigo

jbrinkley · 05-10-2008, 06:47 AM

thanks raceman, good luck andy

polizei · 05-22-2008, 07:25 PM

Thanks for the excellent write up, Brink.

Here's a quick update....

The "new" 3.3l cylinders are in. Still waiting on the heads, but I'm told they should be done soon. I've been doing some odd end things: new rear shocks, lid shocks, sound pad, boost gauge, and painted the alternator housing. Here are some pics...

spence88mph · 05-22-2008, 11:20 PM

I love this project but please... get the fan and shroud done properly.

I know about the old 'to each their own' thing but please, for me ;(.

polizei · 05-23-2008, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by spence88mph

I love this project but please... get the fan and shroud done properly.

I know about the old 'to each their own' thing but please, for me ;(.

Not a fan of the black?? Red is too much bling for me.

mb911 · mb911's Garage

no it needs to be sand blasted then painted I think is what he meant? oh yeah did you figure out the boost gauge? I forgot to take pics and probably because I am sick of taking my car apart

polizei · 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by les_garten

Dude! Whats up with your engine?
I bought some of that Hyper expensive Brake caliper paint from Eagle Day and Painted my Shroud. If you look at it from 3" away, it looks like I painted it with a Broom!! But from a foot out with all the goodies on the motor it looks awesome. Also, the paint is hard as nails. Real Pricey though, just a thought.

I went with Les' suggestion, and even though I cleaned the surface real well, it does have that broom-like finish from up close.

Regarding the boost gauge, it all made sense after reading this thread:

here are some tips on installing a boost gauge

raceman · 05-23-2008, 11:47 AM

hmmm.l think you`re doing a really good job with the car,congrats. When l had my motor apart l did the fan and shroud;powedercoated them both red. lf l were to do it again l would blast the fan itself clean and once l had the factory nice finish l`d clear it.There is clear powdercoat. no offence but on the 911 engine when you pop the hood the fan/shroud takes center stage weather you like it or not,,,,,yours is curtain call time brother,no bueno. Boost gauge is nice but PSI is seems much more accurate to read over the "bar". Points for origin though,it IS german spec..

polizei · 05-23-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by raceman

no offence but on the 911 engine when you pop the hood the fan/shroud takes center stage weather you like it or not,,,,,yours is curtain call time brother,no bueno.

None taken! As spence said, to each his own. As you would likely suspect, I think it's pretty freakin sweet looking. When the engine is all back together and you're not looking at it up close, it'll be hot

spence88mph · 05-25-2008, 03:11 PM

Andy, yours still looks better than mine as mine is still original and nasty looking, hurts me everytime I open the lid. I went to remove it and the shroud but the wiring off the alternator went right into the back of the engine bay out of sight, I was pressed for time so I just reassembled. Before I attempt it again can you tell me where the wires disconnect, I really want to get the fan cleaned up.

raceman · 05-27-2008, 09:41 AM

Cool amigo,cool. You seem to have the required fastidious nature suited to Porsche ownership, we`re all detail freaks right? l`m looking forward to hearing about your first drive

les_garten · 05-27-2008, 12:17 PM

Hi,
Heh, I'm the guy with the broom paint job recommendations!! I am a Fraq'ing Art-eest with a Broom!!! But seriously, it looks fine to me in black. You could do the Pulley in Silver. I Did my Fan Surround and pulley in Powdercoat Silver(They called it chrome), and the fan in Red. BLING, BLING, BLING!!! I was going for a Red and Aluminum look.

You can see the Link called hack job in my sig for a view. There is no doubt that the brake caliper paint looks a ton better than it did, and is understated compared to the BLING some uf US do. Over the years Porsche has done some questionable styling in my opinion also. I lived thru the op-art and hounds-tooth check years and never thought those styles were kewl at all. He likes his fan black, to each his own, ehh?

When he said fan shroud, I thought he meant the plastic shrouding on the top of he motor. I worked with that Caliper paint and never did figure out why lt always looked so "coarse". Not sure how to describe it. It's tough paint though and that black paint job will last a long time I'm certain of that. The only thing worse than no fingernail polish is chipped finger nail polish, if you know what i mean!

mb911 · mb911's Garage

Hey it does not matter regardless it not ours. Here is my fan podwercoated in machine grey

spence88mph · 05-27-2008, 02:44 PM

that looks sweet ben, did you have to take out the centre pieces of the fan? Or were they masked, did you get a build up and clearence issues?

les_garten · 05-27-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spence88mph

that looks sweet ben, did you have to take out the centre pieces of the fan? Or were they masked, did you get a build up and clearence issues?

Hi,
I think I can answer this question!! The fan is a very tight fit. I had to sand the edges of the fan blades after powder coating. That is how close the fn fit's. Makes's sense when you think about it. If you powder coat the surround and the fan blades, you will get clearance issues. I then sanded down the edges of the fan blades till it fit. I was amazed at the precision of the fan blade fit, typical Porsche. I'm sure they didn't want to lose 1 cc/min flow due to being sloppy in their fit. So you have to fit the fan after powder coating, at least that is my experience. Ohhh,by the way, this means you have to take the fan apart...

polizei · 06-02-2008, 03:02 PM

Just got word today that the heads are done!! We should be rockin and rollin like crazy by next week

mb911 · mb911's Garage

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence88mph

that looks sweet ben, did you have to take out the centre pieces of the fan? Or were they masked, did you get a build up and clearence issues?

masked the center and did not powder coat much of the ends of the blades. still looks the same..

polizei · 06-10-2008, 05:05 PM

Doug and I went to install the heads and realized that no head gaskets were included in the "Cylinder Head Gasket Set" for the "911 Carrera (1984-89)" (part #930-100-907-04-M17 here on Pelican), that I purchased from Pelican. I called Pelican, and they informed me that there were no head gaskets needed for the 3.2 Carrera. My confusion was compounded because of the following diagram in the Bentley manual:

The customer service rep had a Bentley manual for the 84-89 Carrera as well, but his did not contain that diagram. Anyways, I did some searching around in the forums and it sounds the general consensus for 3.3's and 3.2's is that there are no head gaskets. However, there is definitely a groove on my cylinders (3.3L) where I presume a gasket should go:

Is it possible that mine are flame ringed and thus need head gaskets? If so, does anyone have a suggestion on where to buy them? Thanks guys.

les_garten · 06-10-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by polizei

Doug and I went to install the heads and realized that no head gaskets were included in the "Cylinder Head Gasket Set" for the "911 Carrera (1984-89)" (part #930-100-907-04-M17 here on Pelican), that I purchased from Pelican. I called Pelican, and they informed me that there were no head gaskets needed for the 3.2 Carrera. My confusion was compounded because of the following diagram in the Bentley manual:

The customer service rep had a Bentley manual for the 84-89 Carrera as well, but his did not contain that diagram. Anyways, I did some searching around in the forums and it sounds the general consensus for 3.3's and 3.2's is that there are no head gaskets. However, there is definitely a groove on my cylinders (3.3L) where I presume a gasket should go:

Is it possible that mine are flame ringed and thus need head gaskets? If so, does anyone have a suggestion on where to buy them? Thanks guys.

Definitely look like head gaskets. You could try ebsracing.com

polizei · 06-10-2008, 08:07 PM

The more reading I do, the more I think my cylinders have been machined for flame ring. I'm also reading that the heads must be machined as well to accept the ring. In which case, I'd either need to send my heads out to get machined again, or get different cylinders. How can I tell the difference between whether it just needs a gasket or if it needs a ring?