911 Slider Lexan Windows - Fixed Style
 

Does anyone run the fixed style slider windows in carbon or fiberglass doors from GT Racing/MA Shaw/Getty Design?

Do they glue in the door frame or is there space to flush mount them and use rivnuts to attach?

Help me out guys, pics appreciated. Thanks!

Here is a picture of Geoffery's 964 (spelling, I should be able to spell his name but I am stupid this morning).

You get the EVO doors straight from the real source- Getty, the owner Mark will custom make them however thick you want. The cheap ones start at $1000 for the coremat, which is just as good as the more expensive foamcore, it just weighs a couple more pounds total.

You get glue in windows from Spectre. Scott at Spectre claims that he has a slightly different window for the right and left side because they are slightly different apparently.

I know Spectre has a mixed reputation, but they have this particular product and provide it to GT Racing/TRE.

Geoffery made his own windows with regular lexan which is what you see in this picture, so you can go that route and cut your own lexan.

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The Getty door has a lip all around it that you can drill into any way you want and screw in the windows. If you glue in the windows you just have to be aware that unless you run some sort of trim tape around the edges you will see the glue blobs through the window, if you catch what I mean. It will be somewhat obvious you glued in the window, in other words.

Maybe you can use a really clear glue. Jack Olsen used some chrome trim sticky tape around the edges of his lexan rear window to hide where he used screws, and it looks natural.

This is the actual window he made out of lexan.

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I also studied up on lexan rear windows and side windows.


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These are spectre products, and apparently are far easier to install than the Getty flush mount quarters and rear window according to David at TRE.

Last picture....Jack Olsen's rear window, with a piece of chrome tape hiding the fasteners.

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Are lexan side windows DOT legal?

Hi

I don't think this is what you're looking for, but...

I'got a pair of Getty CF doors. They are of stock design (they must be to make the car street legal her in Denmark. My plan is to make a fixed window-slider kit solution.

What I think I'm gonna do, is glue the Lexan windows (got those as well) in the stock frame with some standard window glue.

The slider kit I think I will buy from these guys:

http://www.plastics4performance.co.uk/pop_image.asp?image=sliderwindows2

Merry X-mas

Jesper

Is that BB1 or BB2?

BB2. BB1 was a narrow body configuration. How is the car running Zach? I tell you I miss that Monty muffler. I bought a single out as the Zork was too loud. (you were right:) ) and it is just not the same.

JP

No, but neither are the doors I am guessing...

One reason you hide the fasteners is to avoid attention, IMO.

Well I plan on having the lexan painted in a 2" bead all around the window frame for the rear quarters, doors and rear window and use black riv nuts so it won't be very apparent at all.

I plan on using rivnuts and a sealant to get it to be water tight and more importantly air tight. Althought I might just end up not using rivnuts if there is a good enough expoy sealant around.

Thanks for the replies and info guys! This is the look i'm going for just with a slider in the window:
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DDDD: Did Dave from TRE say to get the flush mount trim from Spektr as well or just the lexan?

JP,

Funny you say that because Ed Bighi on the boards has the single out too and our cars next to each other are just different. My car has been running really good and eating modded 997tt's for lunch. :) How is your beast doing? You should make it down to AZ for some events, we aren't that far!

You should get it through David at TRE, he will give you the exact same package deal as spectre, and it will help both businesses instead of just spectre. I know David will also answer all your questions and give you alternatives to spectre when there is a better way...


To answer your question, the EVO doors come from Getty but the quarter window frame and rear window frame from spectre is a better design because the install is extremely easy where as with the getty quarter and rear flush mounts, you have to gerry rig the thing yourself, it takes all day to install.

And yes the lexan window pieces that David likes are from spectre for that particular application as they are designed with those frame in mind. Getty doesn't sell lexan to go with their doors and the spectre product is tailored to the differences between the right and left doors. Or at least that is what they say!

Hey, I was thinking of using those rear quarter windows myself with the louvres, we are researching this stuff simultaneously, which is pretty cool.

Zach,
the car is on jackstands getting all new suspension, turbo, headers, wastegate, starter and wheels/tires. I will post lots of pics when she is back on the road and try to head down your way at some point. Truly LOVE the way your car came out after the repaint. Just beautiful.

Sorry about the hijack Gabe - Your car is an inspiration for many of us here who are living vicariously through you.

JP

Gabe,

Don't know if your going for Max weight savings or not but from what I've
read it sounds like you will be driving on the street some. Why wouldn't you
purchase the lexan, heat and form it over the original glass to get the correct
curve and cut to size. Then install it with the original seals and trim. In the
doors Install the Lexan in the original frames and put stops in the track to keep
the windows tight to the top. Give you the Lexan you want, still save 45 lbs.
over glass, a lot less wind noise, and stock look. Don't mean to butt in here,
just a suggestion if your going to street it much.

Cole

DDDD: Thanks for the info on the frames and such I'll get in contact with Dave and get things set up :) And on the quarter windows with louvers - IMHO they're just too cool to live without.

JP: Don't worry buddy - all my threads seem to turn into random info sharing and story telling and I love it! I'm so far behind so many of you on the information side of things its great to always be able to get so much information so quickly. We're all having a blast here and its only going to get better!

cole930: the goal is that she'll be more of a street car than a track car but with the overall build the idea is to capture that raw unadulterated pure 935 race car feel in a road going car. I dig cars you have to wear ear plugs in to bear the noise, when you have to be a gymnist to get into the car etc. when you need an intercom to speak to the person next to you...

I'm hoping we can seal the carbon doors and lexan windows up pretty well while at the same time loose a ton of weight from the top of the car. Yes I know I still have my sun roof, but what can I say - I do a lot of slow driving around town.

We'll see how it goes for this route and if its too terrible I'll put the steel doors back on. I figure if I'm going to run lexan I might as well run carbon doors as well. And THANKS for your input - you're never "butting in" in my world. Suggestions always welcome!

And Happy New Year Guys!

mine was fixed whit the fasteners included in the kithttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1230804488.jpg

Now that's a 996 with some soul! Awesome.

This is a good way to go, the only thing I have heard is that you are better off getting the preshaped rear and door roll up windows because a good fit is vital. Quarter windows and such you can definitely DYI.

In order to complete the door however you want to remove the window regulator and use a leather strap to hold your window either down or up. Big weight savings.

Thanks guys - if i'm going to run lexan I ain't stickin' with steel doors :) for me its all or nothing and i'll report how it works out on a 20 plus hour road trip.

The wife unit will be the true test as she's going to be riding shot gun the whole way...haha poor girl :)

Gabe

All of us here have followed this build from the beginning. I, for one, am as
excited to see it come together as if it were my own. I understand completely
what you are aiming for and that's just the way I would do it.
I am the original hard core 930 guy and this build has lifted all our spirits
because you have truly captured every "real 930 guys" ultimate dream .

You'll never know how much you have helped me personally. I would sit here in
the middle of the nite, jonesen bad from chemo, and look at your build pics.
My old sled is in the garage and I'm putting it back together, slowly, after paint
and looking at those pics. helped keep me going at a time I didn't have anything left.

I Sincerely Thank You !!!!!

Cole

Cole, buddy - I'm lost for words man...for me that's what this car has been about since day 1, its more of the community's car than mine as without all of ya'll wonderful people, it wouldn't be what it is. And I'm very happy that this car has touched as many people as it has.

I'm just so happy I could make someone else's day as bright as mine...especially yours. You're in our prayers man - we have to meet up so you can get a ride :)

Gabe,

That ride would be the greatest. We can see if 600 HP can set off my
defibrillator.

I live in NE Indiana just south of the MI. border East side. If you ever get
close (with or without the car) know you have a place to layover, my wife is a killer cook, and the
Doberman doesn't bite. 260-570-6914

Cole

Man when are we going to get some F'ing video of that damn thing bro!!!!!? We need that shi+ Gabe... have some pity on us for the love of GAWD! and just give us what we NEED! :) ahaha

Dyno sessions are a'commin' I promise :) But you'll have to wait until February.

I do not suggest you try painting the black trim on the Lexan, it will not stick, use 3M vinyl, it works perfectly. It is what I had to do on my BMW race car.

Also you can see my home made sliders on the drivers side door. I took Lexan and bent it to form the sliders and then simply cut out a window, added felt stick on pads to keep it from scratching as it slid and fabed a lexan handle. BMWs are much harder as they have no window frame!



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I installed the rear lexan window and side windows. I bought the rear window and side window frames from Spektr. They recommended the 3/16" thick rear vs. 1/8". I bought lexan locally for the side windows. I used a 2 pc. aluminum screw instead of rivots. It took me about 6 hrs. to install the back window. I used a butyl glazing tape instead of calk. It's about 95% water tight. I also replaced the vent and door windows with plex. First shot is in race trim, the second shot is street trim. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1284518734.jpg
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