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Does anyone know about the Aerocharger?

YouTube - Porsche 930 with Aerocharger VATN Turbo

AEROCHARGER Turbocharger is the most advanced form of forced induction, giving you the edge over the competition. First to Boost, First to Win.

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YouTube - Aerocharger Boost Controller.avi!

http://aerocharger.wordpress.com/2010/04/
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I was just going to post the same question. I see it has its own lubrication source.
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That's our 930!

The video doesn't even come close to doing it justice. The street is where this kit thrives. Right now it makes full boost by 2700rpm. Pulls harder than built motors with full exhaust and a K27 quick spool by far.

It's a complete bolt-on kit which can be used on absolutely any 930 stock or modified. It's a center-mount variable-vane turbo with our 934-inspired header and a short muffler. By far the fastest turbo package ever made for these cars and it's simple to install.
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I was just going to post the same question. I see it has its own lubrication source.
And yes it is self-contained with it's own internal lubrication source. The bearings are misted with oil instead of flooded which provides the quickest spool-ups. This system is also more reliable as the hot engine oil doesn't sit and soak the bearings during hot shut-downs, which significantly shortens the life of conventional turbos.
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I didn't see a price on the webpage or did I miss it?
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I didn't see a price on the webpage or did I miss it?
Looks like $2,500 [but comes with wastegate]

https://aerocharger.com/shop/index.php/aerochargers.html
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$2500.00 for "UP TO 540 CFM" ain't going to cut it. A lot of turbos flow a lot more than 540 cfm. for a lot less money. A lot of turbos can make 1 bar of boost before 3000 rpm on a 3.3 liter Porsche engine. Garrett GT35R can, GTK Turbonetics ball bearing can and it uses a little small orifice to oil the turbo. A modded engine is going to need more than 540 cfm. IMO
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yeah, Corky Bell used to use those aerodyne charges back in the day. Had to run twins due to their small size. neat concept but priced way to high to justify
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Pulls harder than built motors with full exhaust and a K27 quick spool by far.
Is that really that hard? K27s are ancient technology, I have no idea why people persist with them.
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I don't Know, I would like to see what 2 of those would do on my car..... yea it is expensive, but it looks promising. The only issue is I don't have any money or I would try one...or two for that matter.
What is impressive to me is watching the boost gauge as the guy in the video was coming out of the corners- even at part throttle the car was at immediate full boost. That needle swung over soo fast it makes a K-03 on a GtI look like a dump truck building boost.
Also notice how that guy was keeping up with the Cayman in the turns- that Cayman (as much as I don't like them) is a much quicker car through tight turns than our cars are in near stock trim. Yes- the Cayman's suspension is far improved than a stock 930, but it has more downstairs and likely has much more torque in the bottom end as well. Its very impressive to see a 930 keep with it in the turns in my opinion.
This technology has true potential to become the standard
Is there a video of that white car with no music? I would be interested to hear the motor at part throttle with that setup.
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yeah I'd like a bit more info for my build
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I refuse to take any video with techno seriously.

WTF is it about techno that makes people think it is a wonderful substitute for engine sounds?
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The people that make these videos don't understand what true music is....the sound of a 930 on full boost.

After reading their website info, it sounds as though this turbo isn't really a bolt-and-go. I believe you have to do their entire "kit" (headers, shorty muffler, etc) at a cost of around $5000. Could be I mis-read it all.
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Does the back of the car always stay open like that?????

I would be looking for trouble up here in N.Y. with 5/0, thiefs, ricers, etc..

Like to keep my car a sleeper...Jut my imop.

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After reading their website info, it sounds as though this turbo isn't really a bolt-and-go. I believe you have to do their entire "kit" (headers, shorty muffler, etc)
It's hard to make a center turbo bolt onto the stock header Our turbos (dimensionally) are far different than conventional turbochargers since the bearing assembly is on the front so putting the turbo in the stock location is not only out of the question because it doesn't fit, but kind of like spence88mph said the stock turbo location is ancient technology as well. You didn't see 934/935 cars with turbos off to the side. It's just not as efficient.

With every turbo kit we make, regardless of the application, we build it to optimum efficiency for the fastest spool and broadest torque-band. We're not in the business of "bolt-on and go". However receptively you can get any simpler for a variable-vane turbo conversion considering all you have to do is switch out your header and muffler to match the turbo which is something that anyone should do when upgrading their turbo.

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Does the back of the car always stay open like that?????
No, that would be ridiculous. The bumper is simply left off for us to quickly adjust the vanes and for people to easily see the layout of our setup.
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$2500.00 for "UP TO 540 CFM" ain't going to cut it. A lot of turbos flow a lot more than 540 cfm. for a lot less money. A lot of turbos can make 1 bar of boost before 3000 rpm on a 3.3 liter Porsche engine. Garrett GT35R can, GTK Turbonetics ball bearing can and it uses a little small orifice to oil the turbo.
I would like to see somebody be able to completely change the characteristics of their turbine by simply adjusting the vane-controller which takes less than a minute. Driving on the street? Set the power-band to hit full boost/torque @ 2400rpm. Going to the track for the weekend? Set the power-band higher for peak horsepower and torque to match the usable power range for that particular track. I would like to see a Garrett or Turbonetics with that kind of adjustability.


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Looks like $2,500 [but comes with wastegate]
Our turbos are $2500 yes, but they do not require a wastegate. This comes back to efficiency, no exhaust energy is wasted. And in regards to drmatera's comment you can justify the cost of the turbo by considering the following: you do not need an external wastegate or the added weight and piping that comes with them. You do not need a turbo timer due to the self-contained lubrication and low friction bearing assembly, you;ll never have to worry about hot shut-downs again. If you're not running a turbo timer or don't let your turbo car idle before shutting it down after hard driving then you're simply shortening the life of that conventional turbo. This is not an issue with ours. And finally consider the comment above about on-the-fly adjustability.
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Collin;

Can you provide a 60-130mph graph or vbox measure. It would be helpful.

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Collin- any word of bigger turbo's in the pipeline? Also- can you post the raw video to that white car on the track (no music)? Like I said before, I am impressed that the car was hanging with that cayman through the tight corners in othewise stock trim/boost- I would like to hear how the engine responds.

The only thing I dont like is no wastegate noise

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