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Pimpim 02-01-2011 02:36 AM

Orginal or Modify a 930
 
Me and my friend has renovate my engine and gearbox...Now is the question if i should have it so near orginal or modify to a beast... I know that is some money in this car when them is orginal,so do I sell it like it is and start up a another project?Or keep going on this car
What do you think???
My ambition is drive the car and not have in the garage and look pretty..

http://www1.garaget.org/archive/6/55...563-826081.jpg

http://www1.garaget.org/archive/6/55...63-2103370.jpg

RarlyL8 02-01-2011 04:14 AM

Nice!
Yes these cars respond phenomenally to bolt-ons alone. I've done many power conversions where the OEM equipment is removed and packaged properly for long term storage. The value of the car is preserved and the enjoyment level goes way up.
Bolt-ons can get you north of 375WHP alone. Driveability is also improved. There are many variations on the theme resulting in a 930 the runs and sounds just the way you want it to.

Pimpim 02-01-2011 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RarlyL8 (Post 5819919)
Nice!
Yes these cars respond phenomenally to bolt-ons alone. I've done many power conversions where the OEM equipment is removed and packaged properly for long term storage. The value of the car is preserved and the enjoyment level goes way up.
Bolt-ons can get you north of 375WHP alone. Driveability is also improved. There are many variations on the theme resulting in a 930 the runs and sounds just the way you want it to.

My car has and had when i bought it a k27 turbo,Ruf-intercooler,Sc-cams and bigger muffler. So do I modify my car more or let it be...

I little clip of the car below,it was before the renovation

Garaget | Åker iväg

Pimpim 02-01-2011 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RarlyL8 (Post 5819919)
Nice!
Yes these cars respond phenomenally to bolt-ons alone. I've done many power conversions where the OEM equipment is removed and packaged properly for long term storage. The value of the car is preserved and the enjoyment level goes way up.
Bolt-ons can get you north of 375WHP alone. Driveability is also improved. There are many variations on the theme resulting in a 930 the runs and sounds just the way you want it to.

My car is already little modify,it has K27 turbo,Ruf-intercooler,Sc-cams and bigger muffler...But should I modify more or just let it be and start a another projekt...

totle 02-01-2011 06:10 AM

Tjena Pimpim,

Did the mods you have done on my previous car last winter. Also ported the intake to 35mm.
The performance compared to stock is really noticeable.
Your really feel the difference.

I would try out the car now before going further.
Going further would be going to EFI.

Pimpim 02-01-2011 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totle (Post 5820061)
Tjena Pimpim,

Did the mods you have done on my previous car last winter. Did also port the intake to 35mm.
The performance compared to stock is really noticeable.
Your really feel the difference.

I would try out the car now before going further.
Going further would be going to EFI.

We me and my friend port the intake to 36 mm orginal has 32 mm...Iam thinking if I would try to buy o original 930 engine and keep going modify this engine I have now..

Here is a link of more photos of the renovation

Garaget | Mustang 5.0s galleri & projekt

Pimpim 02-01-2011 09:03 AM

were are my post????


Totle: me and my friend ported the intake from the 32mm to 36 mm so I hope it will be some diffrent...

Shadetree930 02-01-2011 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pimpim (Post 5820375)
were are my post????

The forum software 'hides' posts with certain embedded link characteristics in an effort to weed out the spammers. The post then becomes visible after review and approval from a moderator.

oilonly 02-01-2011 04:53 PM

It sounds to me like you started modifying it already. Might as well keep going. JMHO

dpixxi 02-03-2011 05:21 PM

I have yet to meet anyone who regrets modifying their 930. Just the basic bolt-ons are worth doing. Releasing the Jekyl & Hyde power contained within has only one effect...sublime intoxication leaving my heart pounding (almost better than sex). Something that newer turbos have had engineered out of them. I have spent hours checking the weather channel just looking for an opportunity to let the beast out. GO MAN GO!!!

mark houghton 02-03-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpixxi (Post 5825589)
I have yet to meet anyone who regrets modifying their 930. Just the basic bolt-ons are worth doing. Releasing the Jekyl & Hyde power contained within has only one effect...sublime intoxication leaving my heart pounding (almost better than sex). Something that newer turbos have had engineered out of them. I have spent hours checking the weather channel just looking for an opportunity to let the beast out. GO MAN GO!!!

I would have to agree whole heartedly.

But here's the dilemma....yes, with bolt-ons a person can easily return the car to stock in hopes of commanding a higher selling price. But, buyer beware...who knows if the car was at one time "modified" or not? And the presumption is that - once modified - the PO just rodded the holy hell outa her on the track, then put her back to lame stock condition and claims that it was owned by an old grandmother that only drove her to the store and back for a pack of Territons with charcoal filters. Do we really think that buyers are that stupid? So what the hell drives the higher selling price of "stock"? Stupidity???

On the other hand, some buyers are reluctant to purchase a modified 930, even if it's only external bolt-ons, with the persumption that the PO did those mods to rod the holy crapolla outa her. Certainly the car will die a quick death the first time the new owner reachs the stock .8 bar.

The moral of this story: Many stock 930's at one time held a secret life for speed and performance through modifications. Buy a completely stock 930, and you very possibly will be buying a 930 that has not been completely stock all it's life. If you want a car that performs exponentially better than stock and you don't have the skills, then it's better to buy one that someone else has done a good professional job of modding, and has all the safety features that says something about the desire to protect the investment (I'm talking simple stuff like boost controller and AFR monitoring....which says that the PO was aware of the proper care and feeding of this animal for longevity purposes and not solely because he wanted to rod the holy ever loving bejesus out of her). And in today's sensitivities with stock vs. not, you get one hell of a better performer at a great price. Hold on to it for a few zillion years and someone will buy it back from you at a huge profit when gasoline powered super sports cars are no longer on the roads.

The only time I would trust that a car is truely stock would be for an extremely low mileage garage queen. But I like to ride in fast cars, not ride some bittch queen.

Man, am I on a roll tonight!!!

Pimpim 02-04-2011 01:33 AM

Here if you want some nice pictures of the rebuild we have done...


http://www1.garaget.org/gallery/arch...759_nbhr3d.jpg


http://www1.garaget.org/gallery/arch...760_u07z6i.jpg

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http://www1.garaget.org/gallery/arch...257_dsvgw9.jpg

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Pimpim 02-04-2011 01:34 AM

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http://www1.garaget.org/archive/6/55...63-2103370.jpg

mooney265 02-04-2011 06:12 AM

that shop is 'scary' clean :)

I'll come over there if I ever need surgery... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat1.gif

dpixxi 02-04-2011 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark houghton (Post 5825726)
I would have to agree whole heartedly.

But here's the dilemma....yes, with bolt-ons a person can easily return the car to stock in hopes of commanding a higher selling price. But, buyer beware...who knows if the car was at one time "modified" or not? And the presumption is that - once modified - the PO just rodded the holy hell outa her on the track, then put her back to lame stock condition and claims that it was owned by an old grandmother that only drove her to the store and back for a pack of Territons with charcoal filters. Do we really think that buyers are that stupid? So what the hell drives the higher selling price of "stock"? Stupidity???

On the other hand, some buyers are reluctant to purchase a modified 930, even if it's only external bolt-ons, with the persumption that the PO did those mods to rod the holy crapolla outa her. Certainly the car will die a quick death the first time the new owner reachs the stock .8 bar.

The moral of this story: Many stock 930's at one time held a secret life for speed and performance through modifications. Buy a completely stock 930, and you very possibly will be buying a 930 that has not been completely stock all it's life. If you want a car that performs exponentially better than stock and you don't have the skills, then it's better to buy one that someone else has done a good professional job of modding, and has all the safety features that says something about the desire to protect the investment (I'm talking simple stuff like boost controller and AFR monitoring....which says that the PO was aware of the proper care and feeding of this animal for longevity purposes and not solely because he wanted to rod the holy ever loving bejesus out of her). And in today's sensitivities with stock vs. not, you get one hell of a better performer at a great price. Hold on to it for a few zillion years and someone will buy it back from you at a huge profit when gasoline powered super sports cars are no longer on the roads.

The only time I would trust that a car is truely stock would be for an extremely low mileage garage queen. But I like to ride in fast cars, not ride some bittch queen.

Man, am I on a roll tonight!!!

I think the only reason why I would want a stock car is if I was a "concours" Porsche owner. I'm not one of those. Though I do appreciate a totally stock turbo. It brings back fond memories of the first time I saw a 930. But then I begin to notice things like how the car looks like it's on tippy toes and how skinny the tires are. I see POTENTIAL. The fun part about owning a car of this vintage is it will never be a Ferrari 250 GTO. They made a bunch of 930's. So the thrill is having the freedom to transform the car in tasteful ways. That includes it's performance. One of the great pleasures for me is to just look at my car after driving it. The organic lines of this car are a snapshot in time. Today, car designers know too much about aerodynamics to reproduce this car. That's fine with me. I don't plan on selling this car. I will pass this car on to my son and have fun teaching him how to enjoy it. Nuff said. Here's a photo of both.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1296834227.jpg


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