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SEE YA 01-27-2013 06:26 AM

930 Handle door lock problem will not lock
 
Hello all, had my door handles powder coated refitted them.

However now the central locking will not work. I also cannot lock the doors either now with the key in the lock. I get a movement on the system to try and lock but will not work on either key or central locking on the flob.
I may have missed something on refit?


Any ideas people thanks for any help.

j930 01-27-2013 06:42 AM

its a simple system. i don't know that the handle and the lock would have anything to do with each other. the actuator is inside the panel. did you have to take off the panel to remove the handle? maybe you tightened the screw on the knob that you can turn to tight? bot i don't know.

jsveb 01-27-2013 07:04 AM

As J930 says, it is a fairly simple system. Take a good look at it, and I bel you can figure out how it is supposed to work. I just reassembled the doors on my Carrera 3.0 - no central lock.

One og te things you can mess up, is not getting the prong on the Dor handle to fit in between the two prongs on the door lock mechanism.

I used my iPhone and was able to stick it in there in lack of a boroscope. by studying the pics, I figured it out.

Good luck

jimtweet 01-27-2013 07:10 AM

I have taken my handles and doors apart about 5 times, the handle has nothing to do with the locking system...

HOWEVER

i had a similar problem when trying to lock my car, i removed the entire lock mechanism from the inside of the door, soaked in brake clean over night, then in silicone over night, and locks have worked great for a year...

they tend to get all gummed up and nasty and mine were sticking pretty bad.

SEE YA 01-27-2013 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsveb (Post 7233426)
As J930 says, it is a fairly simple system. Take a good look at it, and I bel you can figure out how it is supposed to work. I just reassembled the doors on my Carrera 3.0 - no central lock.

One og te things you can mess up, is not getting the prong on the Dor handle to fit in between the two prongs on the door lock mechanism.

I used my iPhone and was able to stick it in there in lack of a boroscope. by studying the pics, I figured it out.

Good luck

I am not sure about this door handle fit, in between the two prongs on the door lock anyone got any pictures to help please?
I just refitted the handle in the door and that was it?
Maybe that is my mistake?

jimtweet 01-27-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEE YA (Post 7233602)
I am not sure about this door handle fit, in between the two prongs on the door lock anyone got any pictures to help please?
I just refitted the handle in the door and that was it?
Maybe that is my mistake?

if you remove your door panel and look in there with a light you will be able to see it right away, pretty self explanatory. Make sure the door handle is between the two prongs sticking up, FIELD GOAL style

SEE YA 01-27-2013 11:56 AM

Thanks will do what a great site this is.

mooney265 01-27-2013 03:16 PM

When I did this, I had a similar situation. My problem, however, was that I was attempting to lock the door without it being shut. Once I figured that out, there was no problem...

Don't know about the rest of you, but I cannot lock my doors unless they are shut :)

Spenny_b 01-31-2013 04:32 AM

Wotcha Si, if you want a hand just pop by at some point...be good to catch up; some interesting developments here for you to see ;)

SEE YA 01-31-2013 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimtweet (Post 7233797)
if you remove your door panel and look in there with a light you will be able to see it right away, pretty self explanatory. Make sure the door handle is between the two prongs sticking up, FIELD GOAL style

I had ago today I think I need a picture it still will not lock with a key or on the flob button.

I could not see the FIELD GOAL style the only prong type things are one on the back of the key barrel, and then one inside the door itself which is pushed forward by the trigger.

I think if they are two things mention? I think once I see a picture it will fall into place I hope?
Thanks for any help, I know the central locking works it goes to lock I think when I have been trying to fit the door lock?

Update I only have one prong not two I think, question could I have the adjuster ? the bit that screws into the barrel in the wrong position?
When I pull the trigger it pushes the part forward with the one prong? Does it have to line up a certain way?
Sorry for all of this its hard to put down into words.

jsveb 01-31-2013 05:32 PM

Post pictures of what you've got. And how you are putting it together.

That's going to make it easier to help.

SEE YA 01-31-2013 11:27 PM

Will do pictures in a few days.

SEE YA 02-10-2013 03:50 AM

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SEE YA 02-10-2013 07:30 AM

Update, central locking goes to lock then uplocks itself, cannot lock doors with keys either.
I do have more pictures if needed. Picture below from my car door taken today.

I know the loom is in the wrong position for now.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...3/100_3933.jpg

SEE YA 02-10-2013 08:16 AM

Looking at the pictures, I think something has come uncliped ? Could it be the part, that opens the door with the spring on it in the picture?

WERK I 02-10-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEE YA (Post 7264559)
Update, central locking goes to lock then uplocks itself, cannot lock doors with keys either.
I do have more pictures if needed.

I know the loom is in the wrong position for now.

Does your car have a central locking switch in the console? I would check there first. I think if you disconnect that switch from the harness, you'll at least be able to lock the car manually with the key.

SEE YA 02-10-2013 10:02 AM

Yes it does have a console button which does the same as before still no joy.
I am hoping someone, will spot something in the pictures that is not right or out of place.
I may have fitted it wrong, or something has slipped off a clip or bracket?

SEE YA 02-10-2013 11:56 AM

Thinking about it could this be the problem, I have put a red circle around the area should the end of it clip on to something or not ? I may have forgotten to clip the end of it to something or it slipped off?




http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360529745.jpghttp://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...3/100_3935.jpg












I had to borrow one or two of the pictures from here hope it was ok?

SEE YA 02-11-2013 04:11 AM

Ttt

SEE YA 02-12-2013 10:01 AM

Can someone help, with some feedback from my pictures please.
I maybe right as the pictures do not match each other?

WERK I 02-13-2013 04:30 AM

Could you provide some clarification? You say the door locks then immediately unlocks. The door lock button on the window sill; does it go all the way down and then come back up?

Or is the door solenoid attempting to lock and then releases?

If you disconnect the battery and try to lock the doors manually, both sides of the car lock properly?

SEE YA 02-13-2013 02:12 PM

The door lock button goes down then back up.

gmendo 02-14-2013 06:38 AM

Not sure about a 930, but on a 928, if the electrical connector at the end of the lock barrel was installed incorrectly, the central locking system will behave just as you described.

SEE YA 02-14-2013 10:10 AM

I thought there was only one way it can fit?

WERK I 02-14-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmendo (Post 7273380)
Not sure about a 930, but on a 928, if the electrical connector at the end of the lock barrel was installed incorrectly, the central locking system will behave just as you described.

I'm feeling the same way. This problem is not of a mechanical nature, but more likely electrical. Was the lock assembly removed before powder coating the handle?

SEE YA 02-14-2013 07:14 PM

The lock assembly was not removed. I just removed the door handle?
Thanks for the input people.

WERK I 02-14-2013 07:37 PM

You might want to remove the lock to see if either of the leads are broken. They are really delicate leads and easily broken.

cole930 02-14-2013 08:08 PM

I fought that damn central locking nightmare many times and it's $100
microswitches. About 9 years ago I s--- canned the whole thing and installed a
$25 ebay keyless entry that has worked flawlessly ever since. I smile
every time I lock and unlock the car.

Cole

SEE YA 02-17-2013 07:58 AM

Will spent over three hours today, still no joy ?

jsveb 02-17-2013 08:59 AM

This is not something I am familiar with, since I Don't have central locking.

You say, after locking it, it jumps back up and unlocks autonomously?

If that is the case, have you tried unhooking the battery, and see how it locks all manual?

SEE YA 02-17-2013 09:23 AM

I will try that next thanks.

SEE YA 02-20-2013 02:39 AM

I think the fault could be with the micro central locking loom?
When I was checking it the small bit the turns the plastic tube in the handle had broken off ?

If I am right it moves, forward to turn the plastic tube that fits on the key barrel.


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