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IMR-Merlin 05-24-2015 05:12 PM

I am concerned about RF coming from them, they are low resistance wires, only about 360 ohms per foot.

Really hope I dont have to rebuild the wires.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GJF (Post 8635817)
Maybe the coil packs being over the transaxle positioning them closer to the ECU might cause the interference??? you have a O scope available by chance?


Tippy 05-24-2015 06:27 PM

Just run EMI susceptible wires perpindicular to the plug wires and it should be fine if properly shielded one end only.

IMR-Merlin 05-24-2015 07:12 PM

i am shielded on all needed runs.

GJF 05-24-2015 07:35 PM

It runs with no problem? You can communicate with the ECU from a laptop, but you just can't connect to it when running?

IMR-Merlin 05-25-2015 03:24 AM

Correct. As soon as yiu Fire. The GUI goes haywire and boots you.

Tippy 05-25-2015 04:46 AM

What about starting it up, then after it idles, connect it?

IMR-Merlin 05-25-2015 05:16 AM

same thing, still kicks you right out if you try to communicate with it running.

GJF 05-25-2015 05:18 AM

is that using the old laptop?

IMR-Merlin 05-25-2015 05:29 AM

nope, with a Surface 3 tablet.

My buddy dropped off the laptop last night and it doesn't have a serial port... guy thought the VGA port was serial... LOL

IMR-Merlin 05-25-2015 05:36 AM

I have another that has a bad OS, seeing if I can locate a XP disc

Uwon 05-25-2015 06:00 AM

IMR,
My Tec3r is about 14 years old. I run it with an old Acer laptop that has only a USB slot so I also have this Belkin USB to Serial converter.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1432561914.jpg


I am no tecky, but I remember that the Tec3r will only run on local port 4 when the motor is running. Cannot remember how I got into changing the local ports-maybe somebody more teck savy can chime in if you think that this may be your problem.
With respect to the wires, my wires running from the Tec3r to the DFU's are all quite thick, probably 14-16 gauge.

I know that we all knock the Tec3r and quite honestly there was a time when I almost ripped it out when my mechanic at the time washed his hands off the system. That required me diving in without much help and I'm glad that I did. The results spoke for themselves both in daily driveability and track use.
Stick with it.
Hope this helps.
Johan

IMR-Merlin 05-25-2015 06:07 AM

My buddy has the Belkin adapter, but can't get a driver for the new OS that are out. I just got a good XP disc and I am reloading it on my old laptop now. hope to have it up an running this afternoon. We are getting communication and the GUI (dashboard for management) comes up, but goes haywire when the car is started.


The car is running good right now at low level driving, idles good, good drivability, but going to the dyno in a few weeks so need to get the EMI noise figured out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uwon (Post 8636413)
IMR,
My Tec3r is about 14 years old. I run it with an old Acer laptop that has only a USB slot so I also have this Belkin USB to Serial converter.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1432561914.jpg


I am no tecky, but I remember that the Tec3r will only run on local port 4 when the motor is running. Cannot remember how I got into changing the local ports-maybe somebody more teck savy can chime in if you think that this may be your problem.
With respect to the wires, my wires running from the Tec3r to the DFU's are all quite thick, probably 14-16 gauge.

I know that we all knock the Tec3r and quite honestly there was a time when I almost ripped it out when my mechanic at the time washed his hands off the system. That required me diving in without much help and I'm glad that I did. The results spoke for themselves both in daily driveability and track use.
Stick with it.
Hope this helps.
Johan


GJF 05-25-2015 06:12 AM

Not a problem, I use a usb to serial rs232/LTP1 port replicator. But his will work as well.

USB Port to 9 Pin Serial RS 232 1 Meter Cable for PC Mac for Legacy Devices | eBay

GJF 05-25-2015 06:14 AM

You posted before I did. That will work fine. Drivers are out there, but make sure all your Windows updates are done.

JFairman 05-25-2015 06:37 AM

I wonder if starting windows up in safe mode before interfacing with the Tec3 would work.
Way fewer windows programs are running in the background when you do that. With XP you repeatedly tap F8 while the computer is booting up to do that.

I bought a usb to serial port adapter off ebay for less than $3 shipped. No wire on it just male usb on one end and the serial port on the other. Shipping was free and it was in California so I didn't have to wait 3 weeks for it to ship from China.

edit: a quick google search just found the same usb to serial adapter I have.
I got it so I could log AFR's with my innovate AFR gauge.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-TO-9PIN-DB9-RS232-COM-Port-Serial-Convert-Adapter-/400911856263?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d5835 7287

IMR-Merlin 05-25-2015 06:55 AM

I just got XP loaded in the laptop, now to transfer WinTec over to it. Which might be an issue. Bad network card (why I retired it 10 years ago). LOL

Black_Hat 05-25-2015 06:58 AM

USB stick

IMR-Merlin 05-25-2015 07:03 AM

it's zipped... so I need to load winzip to I think. Unless XP has it already

IMR-Merlin 05-25-2015 07:06 AM

extracting onto thumb now.

IMR-Merlin 05-25-2015 07:32 AM

Just did the happy dance in the garage. Full communication with car running and complete access to the BIN file.

Old laptop with XP and serial cable.

Thanks everyone.


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