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AskewRSR 02-11-2016 06:37 PM

Turbokraft RWB Ducktail intercooler on a 4.0 twin turbo ITB engine
 
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Crown 02-12-2016 03:08 AM

You're right: pics like that don't need any explanatory text

SAY - 642 02-12-2016 03:22 AM

Jizz Fest !

jpnovak 02-12-2016 03:24 AM

Quality construction per the usual from TK (Chris and crew)

Question: The air flow is completely separate from turbo to IC to ITB plenum. Does this not need some kind of balance tube to equalize the pressure across both banks? Would not need to be much but I would be concerned that even a minor difference in pressure as it comes on boost would cause the engine to run weird at transition. Sort of like carbs (or ITBs) out of sync. The engine may just feel flat for that one instant.

I don't think two turbos of identical specs will flow exactly the same. Besides, the flow paths to each turbo and through to the ITBs are not 100% equal length or volume.

I have a similar TT build in mind and am trying to learn the fine points of the layout and design with respect to performance. And yes, mine would also have to fit under a ducktail.

kenikh 02-12-2016 04:33 AM

Chris may have the most fun job in the world.

Ferraripete 02-12-2016 04:42 AM

hooliganish:)

Tippy 02-12-2016 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpnovak (Post 8994737)
Quality construction per the usual from TK (Chris and crew)

Question: The air flow is completely separate from turbo to IC to ITB plenum. Does this not need some kind of balance tube to equalize the pressure across both banks? Would not need to be much but I would be concerned that even a minor difference in pressure as it comes on boost would cause the engine to run weird at transition. Sort of like carbs (or ITBs) out of sync. The engine may just feel flat for that one instant.

I don't think two turbos of identical specs will flow exactly the same. Besides, the flow paths to each turbo and through to the ITBs are not 100% equal length or volume.

I have a similar TT build in mind and am trying to learn the fine points of the layout and design with respect to performance. And yes, mine would also have to fit under a ducktail.

To your point, the 3.2 intake rubber coupling would be ideal for this application as its soft enough to expand as the engine expands but strong enough for 2 bar at least.

jpnovak 02-12-2016 07:29 AM

Wait a minute... I just noticed a small connector on the frontside of the IC (exit pipes). Is that a small connector on the end tank? If so, that is all that is needed.

I think I just answered my own question that it is required and is already installed.

I love the mounting posts that TK does on the outlet side of the IC. So easy to mount. Just a push lock with a mounting point on the front side.

flightlead404 02-12-2016 01:39 PM

Forgive me for being dumb, but what does ITB mean?

(somethingorother throttle body I'm assuming)

flat6pilot 02-12-2016 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flightlead404 (Post 8995646)
Forgive me for being dumb, but what does ITB mean?

(somethingorother throttle body I'm assuming)

Individual Throttle Body

MikeD930 02-13-2016 07:45 AM

Nice looking engine and intercooler! I noticed the a/c compressor fits well underneath the intercooler. Is the a/c compressor stock?

boosted79 02-13-2016 09:18 AM

That's a work of art. Are you running a wideband on each bank and using an Infinity 8 with two wideband channels and trimming fuel to each bank separately? What's involved in getting this type of TT layout into a 930 body? Moving oil cooler, bringing turbo air lines up thru the wheel wells?

TurboKraft 02-15-2016 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeD94 (Post 8996343)
Nice looking engine and intercooler! I noticed the a/c compressor fits well underneath the intercooler. Is the a/c compressor stock?

Yes.
I designed our ITB trumpets and plenums to clear a stock 964/993 A/C compressor setup. Fully serviceable.

TurboKraft 02-15-2016 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boosted79 (Post 8996413)
That's a work of art. Are you running a wideband on each bank and using an Infinity 8 with two wideband channels and trimming fuel to each bank separately? What's involved in getting this type of TT layout into a 930 body? Moving oil cooler, bringing turbo air lines up thru the wheel wells?

Thanks!
Yes, dual Lambdas into the Infinity with feedback and control.

Into a 930 chassis: install a 964/993 type oil tank ahead of the rear wheel along with related mods to t-stat, chassis lines, etc.


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