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Camshaft welding by Tighe Cams - don't ...
As part of the "while I'm in there" story, which is closely linked to the "slippery slope" story, I decided to get my turbo cams built up and reground to SC profile.
A company called Ivan Tighe Engineering in Brisbane Australia (also trading as Tighe Cams on the net) was recommended by several acquaintances so I duly sent my cams off more than seven weeks ago for what was promised as a two week turnaround job. Apart from the continual promises of "they'll be ready to ship tomorrow or the day after", you've got to question the guy's workmanship. They arrived home today - pictures tell a thousand words ...      Almost all lobes have transverse cracks and pitting. Impressive eh! To make matters worse, they were sent back with a grey paint-like finish on all lobes which hid what was lying below. It washed off easily with petrol and felt slippery so it might have been some kind of assembly lube. I almost decided to leave it in place! There is no way this guy could not have seen these cracks and pits before he painted them. Tomorrow, we start negotiations about where we go from here. Regardless, it looks like I'm in the market for some real SC cams. 
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I forgot one ...
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Bill 1988 Carrera - 3.6 engine with ITBs, COPs, MS3X 2024 Macan S Day job ... www.jesfab.com.au Memories: '68 912, '72 911T, '80 911SC, '84 911, '85 930, '86 930, '87 911, '21 Macan S |
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10-29-2008, 04:55 AM
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WOW, that's horrible. Good luck to you. I've got a set of SC cams I'd sell but they will require reworking.
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mmmm, that's nasty! Especially that last picture with the void. FWIW, I got my SCs from Imagine Auto.
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From the Tighe website:
" With many years of knowledge and experience along with new technologies Ivan Tighe Engineering has not been out classed by new competitors in the industry. We at Ivan Tighe Engineering firmly believe that our quality products, service and manufacturing are second to none in our industry." 
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10-29-2008, 06:01 AM
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 "We at Tighe Engineering would like to welcome our new master welder": 
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10-29-2008, 06:10 AM
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That is just flat and simple a **** job.
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- Craig 3.4L, SC heads, 964 cams, B&B headers, K27 HF ZC turbo, Ruf IC. WUR & RPM switch, IA fuel head, Zork, G50/50 5 speed. 438 RWHP / 413 RWTQ - "930 is the wild slut you sleep with who tries to kill you every time you "get it on" - Quote by Gabe Movie: 930 on the dyno |
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10-29-2008, 11:25 AM
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WOW! I take it they are going to reimburse you for a pair of screwed up cams!
How much is a new pair of SC cams? Are they readily available? When I rebuilt my engine, I debated to go with re-ground cams because the 964 cams were out of stock and back ordered. I decided in the long run it would be better to wait for new. Good luck! |
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10-29-2008, 04:46 PM
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Billjam, all you can really do in the face of such a blantant slipshod work is laugh to keep from punching someone. This a$$ clown of a company should refund your hard earned $$$$ with interest.
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10-29-2008, 04:48 PM
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I just received this reply to my email requesting refund or replacement cams. At least he didn't argue about it (mind you, I don't have the $$ yet!).
 I just love the line about them being usable. These things must be akin to hand grenade pins.
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10-29-2008, 05:29 PM
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Is he going to credit you for the work done only? What about your now useless cams?
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10-29-2008, 06:03 PM
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"The cams are still usable, and we have used the cams in that condition before"
Uh, yeahh ....
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- Craig 3.4L, SC heads, 964 cams, B&B headers, K27 HF ZC turbo, Ruf IC. WUR & RPM switch, IA fuel head, Zork, G50/50 5 speed. 438 RWHP / 413 RWTQ - "930 is the wild slut you sleep with who tries to kill you every time you "get it on" - Quote by Gabe Movie: 930 on the dyno |
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10-29-2008, 06:10 PM
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Nice set of Grenades you have there...
That was assembly lube on the CAMS, basically a Moly Coating. I don't believe he'll pay you for your CAMS, he only really has to say send them to me and we'll re do them to avoid anything else legally. He also will know it is not worth the fuss you to go to court. You're screwed on those CAMs unfortunately. Thanx for the Heads-up on a Slip shod operation.
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10-29-2008, 06:10 PM
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They're not totally useless. I'm thinking matching bedside lamp stands (won't she be impressed )
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10-29-2008, 06:19 PM
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Have a use for 964 grind 930 cams that need one lobe minor repair?
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- Craig 3.4L, SC heads, 964 cams, B&B headers, K27 HF ZC turbo, Ruf IC. WUR & RPM switch, IA fuel head, Zork, G50/50 5 speed. 438 RWHP / 413 RWTQ - "930 is the wild slut you sleep with who tries to kill you every time you "get it on" - Quote by Gabe Movie: 930 on the dyno |
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This guy might have done a better job:
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- Craig 3.4L, SC heads, 964 cams, B&B headers, K27 HF ZC turbo, Ruf IC. WUR & RPM switch, IA fuel head, Zork, G50/50 5 speed. 438 RWHP / 413 RWTQ - "930 is the wild slut you sleep with who tries to kill you every time you "get it on" - Quote by Gabe Movie: 930 on the dyno |
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I've bought two sets of Regrinds from IA. I can "somewhat" recommend them. The problem is that the base of the base circle is ground all the way down to the CAM itself and makes the adjustment range on the Valve Lash adjuster kinda screwey like you almost are at the end of the adjustment.
When I do this again, I will just get billet Cams from Web-Cam, I've used them before for about 25 years, and they have really nice CAMs, and do a lot of Porsche grinds. If you have to come up with Donor CAMs and then regrind, Web-Cams would be about the same price or so. http://www.webcamshafts.com/
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---Les Garten---85 930, Andial IC, GHL Headers, Fabspeed Dual, K-27 HF2, 3.4 JE Full Finned 7.5:1 CR, 964 CAM'd, Carerra 3.2 Manifold Cut/Flipped, Tec3r, Siemans 55#, GSF Fuel Rails, Clewett Crank Trigger, Clewett Cam Trigger,Dual Plugged, ARP Head Studs/Rod Bolts, Clewett Wires.Tial 46mm WG, Tial 50mm BOV, WEVO Shifter,934 Boost Gauge, Wideband EGO Sensor/Gauge, C2T Head Gaskets, '88 MB 300TE,BMW R100RT Last edited by les_garten; 10-29-2008 at 06:41 PM.. |
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10-29-2008, 06:36 PM
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Thanks for the offer Les - maybe later if I can't find what I want.
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10-29-2008, 08:21 PM
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Ring Mark Buik at Buik Motorwerks here in Adelaide. He runs the Adrad Carrera cup team. He will be able to find or recommend you to something or someone.
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10-29-2008, 11:28 PM
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Hi Biljam,
I'll send a PM...I have a spare set of SC cams in Sydney. j
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XBJ-930
1988 Porsche 911 Carrera
3.6 conversion
1979 Porsche 930 3.4
1980 Porsche 911SC
Red Dragon
908ster
