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Just Curious If Any Of You Own A 944 Turbo or 928

Just a fun question...how do they compare (if you do)? I don't need another car, but certainly am checking CL way more that I should..!

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Old 06-16-2016, 06:28 PM
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My brother has a 944 Turbo that is lightly modified engine wise - it moves surprisingly quick for a 4-banger. Not much similar between it and a 930 other than they both accelerate hard.

One funny detail is that the electronics of the 944 are far more "modern", and at least adhere to electronics 101 best practices, than those of the same era 911s. Not to mention that its a/c is far better in OEM trim, too.
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I had both. Actually around 2008 I debated whether to sell the 930 or the 91-928 black on black. Put them both on auction. The 928 sold first. I really love the light heartedness of the 951. It's can do so much more than the 930 as a DD. 930 is selfish. Looking for another 928 now.
I just remembered a guy in a Ferrari Modena tried to get away from me in my 930. He was pissed that my cheap $18,000 930 stayed with and passed his Modena. He buys a $60,000 930Flatnose. My 928 was all over him. After then them rich boys stopped inviting me to play.


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Old 06-16-2016, 11:41 PM
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I have an '85 911 NA, '86 944 turbo modified for DE/street, an '87 944S stock (sold to my Bro), and an '84 928S that has been my preferred DD for several years.

still tearing down the 930 for full body/mechanical build from the tub and crank up. will probably take me another year or two to finish. when done it will be brutally fast.... targeting 400+ hp/tq and ~2500 lb wet.

all different, but I love them all.

944S is lively, handles GREAT, and you can toss it around, and a nice/comfortable driver. the 944 turbo is that on steroids especially when the torque comes on with boost (near 300hp/tq), and a bit harsh on the street as I built for a DE/street with racing seats, harnesses, suspension upgrade, etc. just ran it at a 3 day DE at MidOhio last weekend.

the '84 928S 4sp AUTO is a great driver, a little more room than the 944. handles great but heavier than 944 so not really a toss-around car, more of a GT car than 'sports car' feel. comfortable, ice cold AC. great long distance driver.

I have had my 911 NA since '89 and love it. upgraded modestly and ran at DE for a while, then decided to retire, revert to stock, and replace with the 951. other than needing to fully rebuild the AC, nice driver especially when weather allows me to take the top off.

the seating in the 944 and 928 feels lower and legs extended than the more upright feel of a 911

if you are interested in another P car, you just need to find some near by and test drive. if you are a Porsche Club member, I would expect you could find club members with any of these cars to let you experience them.

if I could only have one, it would be the 911 NA, and even when the 930 is done I suspect I will still feel this way. but as I do all my own wrenching, have been able to afford to accumulate this collection.

but my 928 is for sale, but not listed. with the 930 build in process, will be needing $$ and renting two garages. so need to let one go.

I have totally loved having these cars. again, all different but all great in their own right. all depends on what you want out of another car you do not need...

let me now if anyone interested in the 928.


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I have two 944 turbo's. Fantastic cars. Agile, fast, light weight, superb balance. Had an early 5-speed 928, it felt heavy and large, though on paper it is not that big. 944 turbo responds well to maintenance, and performance upgrades.

Both 928 and 944 -variants have a lot of deferred maintenance cars about. You can go very long on both cars with just oil changes and changing the belts. They just get a little clapped out and worn, though still can perform amazingly good. I would look for the best 5% of cars, because still today the price difference to average cars is negligible.
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Thanks for the replies!! Great responses.
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I have two 944 turbo's. Fantastic cars. Agile, fast, light weight, superb balance. Had an early 5-speed 928, it felt heavy and large, though on paper it is not that big. 944 turbo responds well to maintenance, and performance upgrades.

Both 928 and 944 -variants have a lot of deferred maintenance cars about. You can go very long on both cars with just oil changes and changing the belts. They just get a little clapped out and worn, though still can perform amazingly good. I would look for the best 5% of cars, because still today the price difference to average cars is negligible.
This make perfect sense from what I have read about the 928 being designed and built to be a Luxury Touring Car.
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I have a both 89 928S4 and 89 944 Turbo(S), very different cars, love them both.

I echo everything above.

The 928 is such a beautiful a-b car, very practical, quiet and effortless, very well built.

The 944 Turbo is really cool, LSD, KONI adjustable shocks and big brakes standard on 89+ models. Gearing is a bit tall down low, handling is so predictable. Build quality is poor compared to 911s and 928s though, they must have been built by the B-team.

Interestingly, although the 944 feels faster and angrier, I couldn't beat my 928 with a friend driving it in 3 drag races, he's probably a better driver though...
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When I lived in Houston I had a 944 Turbo, 944 Turbo S, and a 944 S2 cabrio.

The Turbo S had big turbo, big brakes, better suspension, a link EMS etc etc and was a riot. I love 944's. They handle so well and are sublime to drive hard.

Then I got a 3.2 Carrera, a 964......etc and the 911 bug bit hard.
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Briefly owned a 944T - it was a great little car. Easy to make power, comfortable, to removable top is awesome, tons of interior room, and handled great. I think they are under-valued.
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I think having a 930 (or air-cooled NA 911) along with a 944 or 928 is the best of both worlds.

Completely different philosophies and driving experiences. I've only driven a 951 a couple of times, but have had two 928s (an '86 5spd and my current '91GT along with 911 and the 84 930).

As fun as the 911s are to drive, the 928 is as well and arguably the perfect GT that can also perform well in the twisties, with comfort and poise... and less effort. I'm not a fan of the auto, so I only speak for the 5spd experience, which IMO changes the character of the 928 pretty significantly.

I tell uninitiated folks that if you put my '89 3.2 next my GT, if you didn't know better, you wouldn't guess that they were made by the same manufacturer. They're that different.

I love them both and have been a long time 911 owner, but I'll have to admit I'm partial to the 928.

I guess it depends what you want to do with it or what kind of car you're looking for.

Back to my first statement.... best of both worlds.. so you need to have at least one of each!
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I had a creampuff '88 928S4 5 speed for a year or so (concurrently with owning my 79 930). It was a fantastic car. When I was looking to buy a Caddy CTS-V Wagon something had to go and it was the 928. At that time 930s hadn't caught fire in the market yet, so I was upside down and would have lost a lot of $ had I sold it. If the 930 market were at a place where I could have sold it without taking a bath, I might have kept the 928 instead...I think its that good.
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The 951 is a lot of car, undervalued. Fun all-stock, and a total blast with simple bolt-on mods.
If I didn't have 3 Porsches already, there would be a 944 Turbo in my life, too.
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I'm really struggling now deciding whether or not to sell my 86-951 in order to help finance a 996tt. The 87-944 was my first, 88-951 my second. Always wanted the build a neat 300hp one. Haven't driven a 996tt yet and worry I will be bored with it.


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only 3? you need to catch up with the rest of us.....

but then you get to play with a lot of other people's cars.

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I am edging up on that... still want to do a MAF and programmable ECU, then take to dyno and turn up the boost a bit.

with the engine mods so far and the full suspension upgrade, it has been a lot of fun at the 2 DEs I went to so far this year. about to replace the brake rotors, lines, check calipers, and change to Pagid yellow pads before my next event. per a recommenndation from a friend I have been running hawk blues. they work good but way to dirty and have ground through a set of rotors.

and finally installing proper exhaust hangers on the 928. when I installed the headers and fabed the 3" SS exhaust, just used metal bands to hang it. finally getting rid of the little rattling noise from them.

but my real dream building the 78 930 is still waiting for me to devote more attention.
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For $50,000 and 40,000km this 996tts interior look really worn, sticky with scratches everywhere.
I know the 996 interior was weak but come-on. Yes my 86951 has a better quality interior I.




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Apparently, I am so enamored with these cars I took plunge on the weekend...my "new" '87 951

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Well now...I'm in the market looking for either a 951 or an S/S2, so it's good to hear all of the good input regarding these cars.
I'm looking for a blk. on Blk. to use as my daily driver, would consider a grey, charcoal exterior and if push comes to shove maybe a guards red, but that would be my last color choice.
I too was looking at the car slow&Rusty just bought, guess I can take that one off the list.

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Looks like a nice one. Congats.
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After having a hard time keeping up on track with modified 944 turbo and after getting a ride in an NA 944 around the track, i've come to the conclusion that i'll need to own one some day!

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