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Spring/wave washers?
What's with Porsche's decision to use spring washers? I was getting ready to button up the cam tower housing when I realized the PO had flat vs the wave ('spring' in PET) ones that Porsche used.
Safe to use conventional steel washers here? What about other locations? https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/N0122418.htm?pn=N012-241-8-OEM
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They are a form of lock washer. In theory, they provide some extra tension to keep the threaded assembly from coming apart. I have never really understood why this is so, as any force applied by the washer is a tiny fraction of the strength provided by the bolt stretching.
Maybe I was sleeping that day in engineering school.
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Here's a video on the performance on different kinds of spring washers, nylocks, and even double nuts on a Junkers Vibration machine. In heavy rail, we now use Nord-Locks on critical bolts. Nylocks WITH a spring washer would still loosen up on the wheel trucks. Steel on steel from the wheels rolling on the rails causes some pretty harsh conditions for fastener tension.
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I'm just not sure why they're used in 'non-critical' areas like the cam housing. And the amount of tension they would add seems like a rounding error. A couple of the used one in my engine came apart--when's the last time you saw a washer fail??
Some other relevant reading: https://engineerdog.com/2015/01/11/10-tricks-engineers-need-to-know-about-fasteners/
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Nice video, BTW.
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Another thing to consider with the wavy washers is the fact that they are hard steel and thin. If you replace them with a normal washer that is not hard it may deform. There are also some situations where a thick washer may be too thick for the stud and nut.
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