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The vertical marks definitely gave me a bit of a scare when I pulled the heads off. I think I've done everything correctly...checked all the clearances, ring gaps, ring orientation, deburred the rings, proper oiling on the rings, piston skirts and barrels. Not sure why these are showing up. They cannot be felt. I sent a picture to Mahle tech support to see what they think, but they haven't responded. Hopefully they're nothing serious...I guess I'll find out when I start it up! |
Time to install the chain housings and camshafts.
Dougherty Racing DC 43x-102 camshaft cleaned and ready to install... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750626804.jpg Left side done... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750626804.jpg Right side done... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750626804.jpg Check for parallelism on the right side. Got within 0.03mm with three shims... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750626804.jpg Started with three shims on the left hand side, but had to add a fourth. Hit the mark exactly. Probably helps that I replaced all of the sprockets with new... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750626804.jpg Onward... |
I discovered vertical marks in my cylinders caused by wrong size oil rings during a rebuild. It looked exactly like what is showing in your pictures. I ended up pulling the cylinders off and deglazing them, I could not remove the vertical lines completely. After installing different rings I ended up with 5% leakdown after break in.
I think that your oil rings aren’t right. |
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I called MAHLE Motorsports today and spoke to Jason. He's the guy that's in a lot of their YouTube videos. Anyway, after speaking to him and emailing him pictures, he said that "the 'ghost' streaks you cannot catch your nail on are normal." Since I can't catch a fingernail on these marks or feel them in any way, I'm crossing my fingers and moving forward... |
With the camshafts and chain housings installed, moved on to installing the sprockets...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750890879.jpg Tried turning the engine over, but nope! Something is binding up. If this picture was at all legible, you'd see that the chain slipped off the intermediate shaft sprocket... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750890879.jpg After realigning the chain, I rebuilt the idler arms using new sprockets and the upgraded arms from Supertec. This shaft was toast and had to be replaced... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750890879.jpg Installed those along with some DIY dummy chain tensioners made from $10 in aluminum tubing and two M10 bolts and nuts... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750890879.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750890879.jpg Onward... |
Time for rocker arms, etc.
Checked all of the rocker shafts. Spec is 17.992mm to 18.000mm. Six of the shafts were out of spec and trashed. I'm trying my best to avoid any leaks... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750982117.jpg My camshaft housings were pretty beat up and had some damage to the shaft bores before Ollie's refurbished them. For extra insurance, I'm using the TurboKraft rocker shaft locks and RSR seals. Rocker arms were refurbished by Dougherty Racing, I replaced the elephant foot adjusters and lock nuts with new, and freshly black oxided bolts by me... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750982117.jpg #1 intake installed... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750982117.jpg After buying an indicator with a 3/8" stem to fit in the Stomski Racing tool, I was able to set valve clearance to 0.10mm... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750982117.jpg And on #1 exhaust... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1750982117.jpg With the rockers in and valve clearances set, I rotated the engine to verify all was good. Nope! The motor locked up after about 60 degrees of rotation. Backwards... |
Is your cam timing in the ballpark? If not, set that first.
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Do you mean that you were rotating the engine anti clockwise?
Just trying to understand. I think the Dempsey book told me not to do that at this point. I have really enjoyed following your build thus far. |
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I was a little too rough when I roughed in the cams and was rotated about 15 degrees (clockwise) off from vertical. Yellow line shows where the dot on the cams was pointing, green line is where it should've been (adjusting for parallax). I'm assuming that when I turned the engine over, the valve was touching the piston and that's why it was locking up. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751654484.jpg Quote:
Glad you're enjoying my build! Onward... |
On to cam timing, rocker installation, valve clearances, and chain tensioners!!!
Rotate to TDC using my degree wheel as a reference. I cut the pointer to a sharp point and I line that up with the right side of the 0-degree hash. Not as good as the digital degree wheel, but I can get very close with pretty good consistency. And it was only $20... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751759006.jpg The range on the DC43x-102 cams is 4.4 - 4.6mm. Got the left side set at 4.49mm... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751759006.jpg After four attempts, I got the right side set at 4.53mm. It's basically just the "slop" in the pin hole the causing the difference between the two sides. I can't consistently hit a number after torquing. It's somewhat random. It's going to be hard for my OCD to live with, but I'm calling a 0.04mm difference good. Unless I shouldn't... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751759006.jpg Timing done! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751759006.jpg Got all the rockers installed and valve clearances set... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751759006.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751759006.jpg Rebuilt chain tensioners by Glenn Yee Motorsports installed... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751760497.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751759006.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751759006.jpg Onward... |
that accuracy is pretty good. The engine won't be able to tell ;)
I think OCD is a healthy quality for this part of the build.. I take vids of my cam timing.. here's one I did recently.. https://youtu.be/orQf6tUtC_s?si=iAY1miMHax-9iC29&t=565 |
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Time to start closing things up...
Installed new M6 studs into the chain housings... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1752445244.jpg Applied Dykem to the chain housing "lid"... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1752445244.jpg Sand and repeat until flat... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1752445244.jpg And installed. I had Simo at SVAUTO vapor hone the magnesium housings and covers... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1752445244.jpg Onward... |
Absolutely beautiful work thus far. Unfortunately you overlooked a serious problem.
You installed a set of 47mm, 4 bearing cams in a set of early 47mm 4 journal housing but you didn't drill the housings to oil the 4th journal. It an easy fix but if you ignore it, the cam will seize in the housing. I posted a thread on the subject called "billet cams in 2.7 housings". Check it out. https://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-engine-rebuilding-forum/1084118-billet-cams-2-7-cam-towers.html http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1752447740.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1752447740.jpg BTW: nice looking idler arms :) |
Thanks for pointing that out Henry! Definitely a doofus move on my part!
From reading that post you linked to, and this other post of yours, it looks like I need to tear everything back down and remove the cam towers to be drilled out. Correct? Do you still offer the service to convert them? Quote:
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Yes, we can convert them for you.
Your cam towers look great but we have a complete restoration service for those who want it. We can also convert 3 and 4 journal 47mm cam towers to 49mm. After extensive deflection testing we have great confidence in the ability to use 3 journal cam housings on larger engines. The 49mm cams are incredibly stout. That is not to say you should/can use 47mm cams on 3.0+ engines. They don't work well. |
I would be buying Henry a steak dinner right now if I were you! I hope he is looking over my shoulder when I finally go into mine.
John |
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Also, thanks to this forum, including Henry, for looking over my shoulder during my rebuild. The main reason I've posted a million pictures of stupid stuff is, in case I make a doofus mistake, someone might catch it and point it out. |
Sometimes to go forwards, one must go backwards...
Took apart the "front end" of the engine, including the cams, sprockets, etc.... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1753045224.jpg Removed the entire top end... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1753045224.jpg Back down to the cylinders...at least I get to use my fancy cylinder hold downs again... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1753045224.jpg I removed my timing degree wheel before I knew I'd be going down this road. This time around, I'm going to fashion something a little different... Time for lots of cleaning! Onward... |
But wait...time for another detour!
Noticed this "gouge" in the exhaust valve stem tip... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1757111632.jpg I decided to replace it with a new TRW valve... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1757111632.jpg Procured some prussian blue (hey, I'm Prussian, too!) to check how well the valve seats... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1757111632.jpg New valve made perfect contact with the seat. I'm skipping any valve lapping on this, especially since this practice is now frowned upon by most engine builders... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1757111632.jpg Put the springs and retainer back on... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1757111632.jpg Using a $20 valve spring compressor from Amazon, got the keepers in and done... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1757111632.jpg Unfortunately, it's about 120 degrees in my garage this time of year, so I get to spend very little time working on the engine. Onward... |
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