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faapgar 06-03-2022 05:13 PM

My new piston 3.0+
 
My new piston design is about to arrive.Developed in 1997 I had Mahle make 5 sets of the prototypes.CP just made 2 sets off the prototype mold.Patent is pending.The best piston design for a 911 ever.I have a second version in process.More power than anyone else has done before.The early version was in a 2.8 built on a Turbo case.66 stroke by 95mm bore.Used special 3.6 early heads that the stud spacing was narrowed and done by the best drag racer in the North East.Heads flowed 326 cfm.Port size was not changed much but the devil in the details.The motor made 373 hp at 9300 rpm.It MADE TORQUE from 244 ft.lbs at 4400 rpm-249 ft lbs at 8900 rpm.They will come in the nest day or so.I will post pics.I just waited 22 weeks for these sets.I am lucky I am 71 and my 2500 sq.ft.shop is paid for.Tough to be in a business with our current supply chain.I have made 95-98-100mm pistons.Due the design and shape these make 20-35 ft. lbs. torque from 4000-6500 rpm.Coming soon.Ciao Fred

mepstein 06-03-2022 05:22 PM

Fred - Sounds terrific. Congrats!

Jeff Alton 06-03-2022 07:01 PM

Cool, congrats. We did a similar project for our M96/97 pistons.

Why don't you explain to us what makes this the "best piston design for 911 ever" and show us the supporting data? There is much more in that motor you describe than the best piston to create the power you claim.

Would love to see pics of those 964 heads with the narrowed stud spacing as well. That is cool.

Looking forward to hearing and seeing all the details and supporting data.

Cheers

Cheers

faapgar 06-04-2022 02:04 AM

new pistons
 
When they arrive I will share pics.Fred

H-viken 06-04-2022 03:45 AM

Do you have a video of the 2.8 revving? Must sound amazing when it gets above 8k!

faapgar 06-04-2022 05:13 PM

new life foe 911 piston
 
They should be here by Wed.I will have pics.They are not normal looking.I will offer a narritive as to why they work.Ciao Fred

porschyard 06-05-2022 03:05 AM

Looking forward to the pics Fred, after our recent chat I have a picture in my minds eye of what they look like and more importantly why they work. Richard

Neil Harvey 06-05-2022 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faapgar (Post 11708900)
My new piston design is about to arrive.Developed in 1997 I had Mahle make 5 sets of the prototypes.CP just made 2 sets off the prototype mold.Patent is pending.The best piston design for a 911 ever.I have a second version in process.More power than anyone else has done before.The early version was in a 2.8 built on a Turbo case.66 stroke by 95mm bore.Used special 3.6 early heads that the stud spacing was narrowed and done by the best drag racer in the North East.Heads flowed 326 cfm.Port size was not changed much but the devil in the details.The motor made 373 hp at 9300 rpm.It MADE TORQUE from 244 ft.lbs at 4400 rpm-249 ft lbs at 8900 rpm.They will come in the nest day or so.I will post pics.I just waited 22 weeks for these sets.I am lucky I am 71 and my 2500 sq.ft.shop is paid for.Tough to be in a business with our current supply chain.I have made 95-98-100mm pistons.Due the design and shape these make 20-35 ft. lbs. torque from 4000-6500 rpm.Coming soon.Ciao Fred

Fred,

Its great that more new products are coming for these older engines. There is no reason development should stop. The more that get involved and offer alternative options the better for all.

Good job my friend.

faapgar 06-06-2022 03:26 PM

New stuff
 
Pics in the next two days with an explanation why they work.Thanks Fred

faapgar 06-06-2022 04:06 PM

New stuff
 
Pics in the next two days with an explanation why they work.Thanks Fred

Dpmulvan 06-07-2022 05:59 AM

I would be interested in a set of Fred pistons, are you selling any sets? Or have an agreement with any manufacturers or are these just personal use?

al lkosmal 06-07-2022 07:10 AM

Fred,
Looking forward to learning more......

regards,
al

faapgar 06-07-2022 08:28 AM

new shape of pistons
 
I am waiting for the UPS guy or gal to show up TODAY and make me smile.These will be available for sale.Long wait from CP is the downer though.These 1st two sets are 98mm.One for 66 stroke and 70.4 for the other set.

blue911rsr 06-07-2022 09:10 AM

What length rod and what pin size

faapgar 06-07-2022 11:42 AM

Pin size
 
The wrist pin size for these is 22mm.For motors with aftermarket rods 19mm will be offered.On 66mm stroke I use a 132mm rod with 98mm bore for a SS 3.0.Still waiting for UPS to come today.

faapgar 06-07-2022 01:12 PM

No UPS yet
 
I got my 1st smart phone a month ago.I got a text picture of the piston last week I just found.So I took a picture of the picture on my phone to give you something to look at.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1654636139.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1654636139.JPG

faapgar 06-07-2022 03:21 PM

Pistons are here at 7:10 PM.
 
IT IS LIKE XMAS.Here we go.I am making Philly Cheese Steaks for 6 people out of Filet Mignon.So details tomorrow.The pics for now.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1654643732.JPG
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1654643732.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1654643732.JPG
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faapgar 06-07-2022 04:21 PM

here you go
 
bump

mepstein 06-07-2022 04:25 PM

Fred - I'm in. I'm building a 3.2SS. I don't care about HP, I just want it to rev. ITB's and Motec. We'll talk soon. Thanks, mark

MST0118 06-07-2022 04:49 PM

Your steak dinner sounds good and making me hungry!! Pistons look cool too!


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