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zztot 12-11-2023 11:58 AM

Case sealant
 
There is extensive thread and recommendation to use Threebond 1104……..however it appears it has been superseded by 1184 from search I did.
Does anyone have input/experience with 1184?
TIA

stownsen914 12-11-2023 03:15 PM

I believe the update is mentioned in the ultimate sealant thread or whatever it’s called. Pretty sure people just migrated to using 1184, but keep me honest and verify.

zztot 12-11-2023 04:44 PM

Sealant
 
10-4

zztot 12-11-2023 05:34 PM

Researched
 
You are correct.
1104 had lead in it so was discontinued. Superseded by 1194 then 1184.
Never realized so much research was necessary……but also funny….common comment was sealing surface cleanliness most important element of the process.
Thanks

PeteKz 12-11-2023 11:41 PM

It always is.

Old H2S 12-12-2023 02:34 PM

Acetone is your friend.

dannobee 12-12-2023 03:17 PM

Just call them 11 series and 12 series threebond, since the numbers change so often.

11 series is thinner for metal to metal joints.

12 series is thicker and more for replacing a conventional gasket.

zztot 12-12-2023 05:09 PM

Sealants
 
Good explanation

Jeff Alton 12-12-2023 08:28 PM

We are 20 engines into 1184, no issues.

doppingcot 12-14-2023 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 12150556)
We are 20 engines into 1184, no issues.

That's impressive! 20 engines in with no issues is quite a feat. Your current stable sounds like a fantastic lineup. Keep up the great work at Turn3 Autosport! 👍

zztot 12-14-2023 06:39 AM

Sealant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stownsen914 (Post 12149796)
I believe the update is mentioned in the ultimate sealant thread or whatever it’s called. Pretty sure people just migrated to using 1184, but keep me honest and verify.

The thread you referenced is “The complete engine sealant thread” I’m not great with searches but was able to find it.
Tons of information including graphic of where each sealing compound is used.
Thanks

PeteKz 12-14-2023 02:07 PM

Most sealants work for awhile. The real proof is whether they still hold after, say, 50,000 miles. Most of us will never know...

But I'm pretty sure the 1184 is at least as good as it predecessors.

dannobee 12-14-2023 03:05 PM

The real proof is that billions of cars and motorcycles have used three bond RTV or its derivations or equivalent to seal up engines and transmissions for 30+ years now.

Jeff Alton 12-17-2023 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doppingcot (Post 12151312)
That's impressive! 20 engines in with no issues is quite a feat. Your current stable sounds like a fantastic lineup. Keep up the great work at Turn3 Autosport! 👍


Welcome to the forums. Don't be afraid to your use your real name.

Can't really tell if you are being facetious/sarcastic or not....

You did add some value on the 044 pump thread....

Was simply stating we have had Zero issues with the change from 1104 to 1184.

That said, we still use Loctite 574 on cam towers, because we had one engine years ago that leaked with the 1104/1184 on the cam towers. But, as you can see from the myriad of threads (and you seem to be in the industry) that every builder has their favorite sealants they used to reduce the risk to their reputation and limit the chance of a comeback, all based on our/their experience....

Looking forward to your contributions to this excellent enthusiast forum and community.

Cheers


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