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New oil fed tensioner broken?

I noticed the oil relief caps were loose prior to installation and upon touching it, it popped off! The other one is loose, but didn't seem to come off... yet?!
I thought this was supposed to be an upgrade, seems temperamental.

Thoughts?

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Same thing happened to one of mine a few days ago. Just flicking the tensioner out with a screw driver and caught the cap. That was it. All over. new one on the way. They don't seem help in by much. But it is a very light spring under there. Scary to think if it came loose.
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The ball usually ends up on the drain plug magnet, FWIW.

There's a mod outlined here somewhere where two small holes are drilled in the tensioner to add a piece of safety wire across the cage to keep it in place.
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The pressure fed tensioners I bought in 84 have worked flawlessly. This is a new problem and I wouldn’t install them without modifications of some kind.
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I made up a piece to replace that bit that fell out. From stainless, which has a coeff of expansion a bit higher than steel.
But I can't bring myself to trust it. That wire trick would help.
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Is that ball 5 mm by any chance? I found one in the bottom of an engine last year.
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I would have thought a bit smaller - maybe 3-4mm. But I can measure it in a few days. Not at home right now. But I downsized the ball slightly for my fitting - it is more complicated than it looks. I still have the original and can measure in a few days.
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I had the same issue with a tensioner and used the wire method. Drill carefully and it should go well.
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Have a pic of the drill method? At this point I'm tempted to just use the original type...
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Credit to Trackrash (Gordon) for the pic.
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Yup, that's exactly what I did too.
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The 5 mm ball that I found was in the sump of a CA company rebuilt engine with lots of red painted parts. Less than 200 miles on a total rebuilt mag case engine that had not been line honed or bored. Much main bearing material in the sump along with the 5 mm ball. Since I know of no ball bearings in a 911 engine, I thought that the rebuilder might have put it in the sump as a joke. No surprise since the rest of the "rebuild" was a joke.
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You do hear of some horror stories.
My 930 had a 'freshly rebuilt engine' when I bought it. Turned out to be a replaced 2nd hand P&C, and RTV of every colour on every surface. Oh, and a timing lock pin in the crankcase - no extra charge.
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To original poster ….. where did you purchase tensioners?
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Is that ball 5 mm by any chance? I found one in the bottom of an engine last year.
Yep - 5.0mm. Bingo.
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To original poster ….. where did you purchase tensioners?

OEM porsche tensioners from ********az
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Tensioner

…..Hmmm
Even more troubling
Bought a kit from vendor and wanted to determine if i needed to be concerned.
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Alan, thanks for checking. Now I can quit wondering how a 5 mm ball wound up in the bottom of an engine.

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