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Henry Schmidt 10-09-2025 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 12544448)
We have used many over the years. Not going to say what is best... :)

For a traditional butterfly style, we like Jenvey. Used them countless times with great results every time. We have also used PMO, Clewett, TWM (borla now?) Hargett (did some testing for them and not even sure if they are around?) and RHD.

Our go to is the Jenvey, high quality, easy to adjust and maintain their adjustment. We adapt the throttle set up a little to our liking. On same engines, they made more power than the PMO's but the PMO looks like a weber.

Jenvey also offers their heritage line, which looks amazing if you want a carb look, as injectors are hidden. We have not tested those. The Clewetts are very functional, everything is well thought out mechanically, just aestetically, they are a little "cludgy".

Was not impressed with the RHD at all. Too many pieces involved (I get it, modular to fit many applications) the linkage seems a little "light" for the appplication and they had a complete lack of instructions/tips with the kit. Client really wanted them, so we got a set.... They perofrmed well, but just not quite what we were looking for.

Not tried the AT Power ones, may some day soon. The clients we have built motor for with the all of the listed ITB's have been thrilled with the performance, driveability and throttle response. So we are happy.

Your ECU choice and tuner choice are likely more important to get good performance and driveability.

Cheers

Great information! Thanks Jeff
ITB is not in our wheelhouse so your expert input based on actual experience is invaluable.

Henry Schmidt 10-09-2025 08:18 AM

One of the very first versions of Richard Clewett's ITBs on a 2.7 RS replica built by Supertec. Easy to use, great performance.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1760025227.jpg
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Rivet 10-09-2025 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 12544448)
We have used many over the years. Not going to say what is best... :)

For a traditional butterfly style, we like Jenvey. Used them countless times with great results every time. We have also used PMO, Clewett, TWM (borla now?) Hargett (did some testing for them and not even sure if they are around?) and RHD.

Our go to is the Jenvey, high quality, easy to adjust and maintain their adjustment. We adapt the throttle set up a little to our liking. On same engines, they made more power than the PMO's but the PMO looks like a weber.

Jenvey also offers their heritage line, which looks amazing if you want a carb look, as injectors are hidden. We have not tested those. The Clewetts are very functional, everything is well thought out mechanically, just aestetically, they are a little "cludgy".

Was not impressed with the RHD at all. Too many pieces involved (I get it, modular to fit many applications) the linkage seems a little "light" for the appplication and they had a complete lack of instructions/tips with the kit. Client really wanted them, so we got a set.... They perofrmed well, but just not quite what we were looking for.

Not tried the AT Power ones, may some day soon. The clients we have built motor for with the all of the listed ITB's have been thrilled with the performance, driveability and throttle response. So we are happy.

Your ECU choice and tuner choice are likely more important to get good performance and driveability.

Cheers

Just as a small update on the RHD ITB's. They have since made a small revision on the linkage and now include a full published instruction manual with tips.

Henry Schmidt 10-09-2025 12:42 PM

Some people might find this to be the "best"!
3.5 EFI using RSR high butterfly built by Ruff for Jerry Seinfeld.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1760036367.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1760036367.jpg

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targa72e 10-09-2025 05:44 PM

Last option is to convert the existing 9M to a DBW but I'd still be out of idle air control monitoring throught the ECU

You do not need Idle air control with DBW. You can use the ECU to open the throttle to get what ever Idle you want.

John

Turbo_pro 10-10-2025 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targa72e (Post 12544877)
Last option is to convert the existing 9M to a DBW but I'd still be out of idle air control monitoring throught the ECU

You do not need Idle air control with DBW. You can use the ECU to open the throttle to get what ever Idle you want.

John

Your "last" option should be the first option. Whenever you have money invested in a "custom" build, trying to modify the parts you own is a great starting point.
My experience with EFI is so limited that I wouldn't begin to understand issues with the 9M system but if you can figure out what is missing, mitigating the issues by modifying what you own seems reasonable. Throwing money at a problem is rarely the "best" way to proceed.

General rule, not aimed at you John. I am agreeing with your suggestion.

Jeff Alton 10-10-2025 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rivet (Post 12544657)
Just as a small update on the RHD ITB's. They have since made a small revision on the linkage and now include a full published instruction manual with tips.

Thank you for the info. I should have also noted, the owner/contact was always responsive and easy to deal with.

Cheers

Henry Schmidt 10-11-2025 04:42 AM

For anyone looking for a cost effective forey into the ITB world, I have a stellar set of 50mm PMO ITB for sale. These will fit any size 911 but probably should be used on a 3.0 and larger.

https://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/1184687-quick-sale-stellar-set-pmo-50-mm-itbs.html
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1760186508.JPG

These ITBs tend to give you project a more "period correct" aesthetics and still offer the modern convenience of programmable induction.
You can even use a factory early 811 air filter housing to maintain an even more authentic aesthetic.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1760187742.jpg


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