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What should a SS3.2 cost me?

My SC motor gave up so now I've got an eye to the 3.2SS. My wish list is as follows:

JE 10.3:1 pistons
New Cyls mooned
GE 60 cams
Shuffle pin
Lighten flywheel
knife edge crank
polish the case
keep it sgl plug on race gas
open the intakes
Aase springs
TI retainers
Anything I should add?

Its a strictly track motor...it has weber 46's on top and 1 5/8" headers on the bottom.

It dyno'd @ 238 RWHP in its original configuration. Any idea what it will put out in 3.2? I would also be doing the new chains, ramps, etc. I'm 10 thumbs too, so I'd have to have it built. Any guesses?
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If it has later SC heads I would budget for enlarging the exhaust ports as well to accomodate the cam airflow. (just a hair, maybe a few mm)

Cost really depends on labor rates, but you could spend $10-15k without trying hard... That's assuming you are using your existing bottom end.
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Thanks Chris...I'm hoping it ends up like your 3.2 in the black ride, sans the MM and twin plugging.
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Give Henry a call. He's very reasonable and knows what he's doing.

http://www.supertecperformance.com/
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Give Henry a call. He's very reasonable and knows what he's doing.

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good advice here. The failure of my 3.2 SS project was not sending it to Henry. Budget $7k-$10k for a full rebuild with a core motor.
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I don't really want to start adding up what my SS 3.2 has cost!.... I have bought many new parts which make the $$ add up. Parts alone must be around £8,000 ($15,000).
Not sure on build costs as I will be doing a lot of it myself with help from a good friend.

My set up is similar to yours but I am running S grind cams. The build is happening over the next few weeks so I can take some pictures. Not sure on HP but it will be rolling road’ed (dyno) soon.

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The build is happening over the next few weeks so I can take some pictures
Please do...I'm jumping in w/ both feet, so I'll see about doing the same also. Problem is that my mechanic is 60 miles away...makes it kinda hard to get daily update pix. W/ my core and his labor looks to about $13k...soooo the only other question is how to hide it from the Mrs.
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Re: What should a SS3.2 cost me?

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My SC motor gave up so now I've got an eye to the 3.2SS. My wish list is as follows:

JE 10.3:1 pistons
New Cyls mooned
GE 60 cams
Shuffle pin
Lighten flywheel
knife edge crank
polish the case
keep it sgl plug on race gas
open the intakes
Aase springs
TI retainers
Anything I should add?

Its a strictly track motor...it has weber 46's on top and 1 5/8" headers on the bottom.

It dyno'd @ 238 RWHP in its original configuration. Any idea what it will put out in 3.2? I would also be doing the new chains, ramps, etc. I'm 10 thumbs too, so I'd have to have it built. Any guesses?
I'd guess 260 hp if this was a 3.2SS.
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So I pulled the trigger on this yesterday. My mechanic had just built nearly the same motor for a car he campaigns w/ HSR West. I'm looking for a sub 1:50 @ Fontana. his car ran a 1:51xx in race conditions on 285 hoosiers w/ an IROC tail. I run 315's w/ a c/f wing...so I think it's doable. Can't wait to get it in there!!!
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Wow, your 3.0 SC was making 238 rwp in it's previous config? What was the compression, camshafts, carbs, etc? That is like over 270 crankshaft hp! Pretty impressive!
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Wow, your 3.0 SC was making 238 rwp in it's previous config? What was the compression, camshafts, carbs, etc? That is like over 270 crankshaft hp! Pretty impressive!
NOTHING added...took the cis off put 46's on top and headers on the bottom. It was super dependable...till I missed a shift a couple races ago !
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I am dynoing my 3.0 SC engined race car this Tuesday. I am curious to see the HP numbers from mine. It has 10.2 compression, twin plug, RSR cams, ported 1980 heads, 46 Webers w/ tall manifolds, 1 5/8 headers on race gas.
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I am dynoing my 3.0 SC engined race car this Tuesday
Lemmee know what the numbers are.

BTW...10.2 twin plug AND race gas?

My new motor will be 10.5 and SINGLE plug on race gas...am I missing something? My mech says I don't need to worry about pre-det. Should I tho?
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No, I don't think twin plug is necessary with race fuel and 10.2 comp., but this I bought engined used, and I run race fuel to give it an extra safety margin. I have told it is worth a couple % hp also.
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