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J P Stein 06-18-2006 11:41 AM

Cylinders
 
Does anyone know anything about these cylinders?
Sorry if this is a rerun. I'm not building, just curious.

From an Ebay ad.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-911-84mm-Aluminum-Nikasil-Cylinders_W0QQitemZ8074549673QQcategoryZ33617QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem

echocanyons 06-18-2006 11:43 AM

QSC is the manufacturer. There has been a ton of these on the market lately.

Sorry I don't know of anyone currently using these.

echocanyons 06-18-2006 11:50 AM

I think Henry from Supertec is selling these and probaly has a some experience with them maybe he can speak for them.

kenikh 06-18-2006 12:50 PM

Are you sure these are the same as Henry's?

cnavarro 06-18-2006 01:02 PM

I would think so since Henry has been selling QSC branded cylinders on ebay as well for some time now.

nine14cats 06-18-2006 03:24 PM

JP,

I've been looking at the QSC's with the JE pistons for my 2.7 project as well.

Let me know what you find...

Thanks,

Bill P.

2.7RACER 06-18-2006 08:30 PM

They may be fine. Especially if Henry sells them.
For me personally the 9.5 compression cylinders are interesting.
I think I'll hold out for the 10:1 cylinders.

kenikh 06-18-2006 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 2.7RACER
They may be fine. Especially if Henry sells them.
For me personally the 9.5 compression cylinders are interesting.
I think I'll hold out for the 10:1 cylinders.

Since when do cylinders have anything to do with compression? I am sure height group can affect CR, but in the end it is still calculated from piston and head volune...

2.7RACER 06-18-2006 08:41 PM

Kenik,
Duh!
More High tech from Ebay.

Wayne 962 06-18-2006 10:54 PM

QSC = Chinese made. The jury is still out on the quality - I have not had a chance to run them, or inspect them firsthand, although I think they may be in our catalog now...

-Wayne

J P Stein 06-19-2006 10:15 AM

Wayne:
Are they spun cast (centrafugicaly..sp?) like Mahle?.....the pic make them appear to be cast.

kenikh 06-19-2006 10:20 AM

They are indeed cast, especially if they are the same as Henry's. He and I talked quite a while back and he said they are cast to cut down on cost (apparently with no detriment to quality). I believe that the only machined billet cylinders on the market are Charles' Nickies, while Mike Bruns iron/aluminum cylinders are machined from billet with pressed in iron sleeves.

cnavarro 06-19-2006 10:30 AM

The only cylinders that are spun cast are the factory cylinders and the Perfect Bore branded cylinders. If I am not mistaken, Mike's sleeves are spun cast too and are ductile iron, not cast iron.

Wayne 962 06-19-2006 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J P Stein
Wayne:
Are they spun cast (centrafugicaly..sp?) like Mahle?.....the pic make them appear to be cast.

Again, I have limited knowledge of these units at this time...

-Wayne

sand_man 06-20-2006 04:54 AM

I'm running Henry's Ps&Cs on my 930. 98MM (3.4L) with 7.3:1 CR. I'm still well within the break-in period on my engine, but so far so good. No issues. Time will tell.

bavaria911 06-20-2006 05:47 AM

I started a thread about 2 weeks ago -
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-engine-rebuilding-forum/286447-new-2-4e-p-cs.html

Are these the same company /seller we are taling about?

Bavaria911

cnavarro 06-20-2006 05:51 AM

Close, but not the same. AA is another manufacturer from China, but they have been around for a few years and are now venturing into other markets. Their focus is on cast iron cylinders and high silicon cast pistons, although they do now have limited forgings for the vw side of their operations.

cstreit 06-20-2006 08:03 AM

How can they give you the compression ratio from JUST the cylinders? :)

starlifter1 06-20-2006 11:20 AM

Maybe their director of sales was taught by motor meister

2.7RACER 06-20-2006 05:22 PM

Even Motor Meister knows better than that.
And I don't like MM either. They fu*&ed up my son's transmission and would not stand behind it.
Doesn't look good for this Ebay seller.


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