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flatsixcrazy 09-20-2006 10:04 AM

Your input on 3.0L engine with 3.2L Ps/Cs please
 
Hi everyone,

I am thinking about putting together a 3.0L engine with 3.2L Mahle Ps/Cs (for street and occasional DEs in a 1972 chassis) and hoping that you can give me some input on what to pay special attention?. Here is what I have so far:

- 3.0L case with std. 70.4mm crank,

- set of 78SC heads or a set of SC ported, twin-plugged heads I
am looking to buy from Scott Kinder (YTNUKLR),

- set of Sc grind (will be 964 grind) cams

- CIS set up

- Set of 3.2L Mahle Ps/Cs for CIS

-SC single plug ingnition

What else am I missing?. I will have the SC rods machined to use with the 3.2L Ps/Cs and get a set of 23mm wristpins.

Future direction for the same engine,

-Higher compression JE pistons
-More aggressive cams
-40mm IDA Webers
-964 distributor

Thanks you all in advance for your inputs. Andy

Jeff Alton 09-20-2006 12:22 PM

I am confused about your description of the P/C set. Are they 98mm for use with a 22mm pin (SC rod) or are they 95mm pistons from a 3.2 that have 23mm pins?

If they are 95mm from a 3.2, save your money. They have the wrong pin diameter and they are designed for a shorter rod and you will still have 3.0 displacement as the 3.0 uses a 95mm bore as well.

Could you clarify?

Thanks

davidppp 09-20-2006 03:16 PM

Yes, still 3.0 L..

But the 3.2 piston is a much better piece allround than the 3.0..and offset drilling the pin bore in the rods makes up for the loss of compression height.

Kind regards
david

flatsixcrazy 09-20-2006 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by catca
I am confused about your description of the P/C set. Are they 98mm for use with a 22mm pin (SC rod) or are they 95mm pistons from a 3.2 that have 23mm pins?

If they are 95mm from a 3.2, save your money. They have the wrong pin diameter and they are designed for a shorter rod and you will still have 3.0 displacement as the 3.0 uses a 95mm bore as well.

Could you clarify?

Thanks

Hi Jeff, it's what Henry said in this thread that got me going http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=245455&highlight=camsha ft


Hi David,
Have you completed your 3.0L engine using the 3.2L Ps/Cs yet?, or did you go with something else?.

Andy

YTNUKLR 09-20-2006 06:04 PM

Andy, as shown by Herr Schmidt II (Henry), the 3.2 P/C can work well on the 3.0L base. I think the heads that I have for you will work very well on this config., and I'm not just saying that so you buy them ;). Obviously you can stick a dummy plug in there and run it as a single-plug motor, and upgrade when you want to, down the road.

Another great combo (that you may decide if/when you install JE pistons) is changing the cylinders to 98mm, either with Nickies, QSC or bore your 95mm Mahles and replate, etc. That will give you 3.2L but with a different borexstroke (98 x 70.4)from Porsche's original 3.2 (74.4 x 95mm).

I have a 3.2L (stock) engine on my stand right now. Originally, I ordered 964 cams for this motor from Camgrinder (on the forum). Now, it looks like we're going with something different--perhaps a modified DC20 or maybe even something a lot hotter if this guy decides he wants carbs and JE pistons instead. So, I have a set of brand-new 964 cams for sale, if you're interested. I'm sending you another PM.

Best regards,
Scott

flatsixcrazy 09-21-2006 03:09 PM

Thanks Scott. I already have a set of 3-bearings SC cams and I won't know what to do with it if I buy your cams. So, I'll send it out to have it regrind. What would be a good cam for this engine if I were to run the 40mm Weber on it?, with CIS pistons?. BTW, I just send the payment for the heads via paypal. Thanks. Andy

YTNUKLR 09-22-2006 06:54 AM

Thanks Andy. A good cam for CIS piston/Weber 40s is the 964 or even the 3.8 Supercup from John D. @ drcamshafts.com.

Cheers


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