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justinp71 04-19-2007 09:06 PM

Chain housing loose stud for tensioner
 
I pulled off my right side chain tensioner housing and thethe shaft that holds the tensioner slid right out. The housing cover has a hole on it also that appears to support the shaft from that side.

Can I just jb weld the shaft in, or should I look for a new housing?

Henry Schmidt 04-20-2007 09:58 AM

We have made the shaft larger by hard weld and machining the shaft and pressing it back in.
Another housing may make more sense.
JB weld will probably fail after a short time.

022spa 04-20-2007 12:58 PM

Henry does the same go for shafts that are very galled? They can be removed hard welded grownd and then reilstalled? I assume yes. Is this standard practice? One of my chain boxes has a shaft that concerns me. Do most of the porsche specialty machine shops do this? Or, is this another Supertec specialty?

Henry Schmidt 04-20-2007 01:30 PM

We generally just replace the box if there is more than a loose condition involved.
We have plenty.

Repairing the box is an option when time or availability of a replacement box is an issue.

022spa 04-20-2007 01:44 PM

So, Replace the entire box if the shaft looks questionable?
Any way to determine what is questionable. Microfinish?
I think that anything that can be felt with a fingernail or a lead pencil is 64 microinch?

022spa 04-20-2007 02:04 PM

The shaft in qestion looks like a chewed up dog toy.

022spa 04-20-2007 02:06 PM

sorry for the spelling, i amd too proud to use the spell checker.
:)

Henry Schmidt 04-20-2007 03:01 PM

It's tyme for mi red pensil, so we can inshure proppur spelling. :)

022spa 04-20-2007 03:12 PM

I was even trying extra hard on the last reply but even messed that one up. Hooked on phonics worked for me.:D

KTL 04-23-2007 02:34 PM

Seems that extra boxes are quite common and you can probably find one on the classifieds. Or one of the resident engine gurus with their supply of spares can sell you one.

I agree a shaft that slides right out is bad news. They're pressed into (or heat-fitted) into the box so they shouldn't slide out. They're not affixed to the box with adhesive. The goop on the back is simply to seal the opening to avoid leakage or weeping.

A shaft that is galled so bad it looks like a chewed dog toy is even worse news. Before putting a new box on the engine, be sure to look at other components to see what might be the cause. Chain parallelism? Poor oiling (update your tensioner arms)? Poor chain tension?

304065 04-23-2007 02:49 PM

Here is a good thread on the subject.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-engine-rebuilding-forum/211973-what-do-i-do-about-idler-arm.html

022spa 04-23-2007 04:39 PM

Chewed dog toy might have been a bit of an overstatement. But it does look like the pictures in the attached forum link and the arms did stick when i tried to remove them. Yeah i will either make some shafts or buy some new boxes. Probably 17-4 Ph and have it chrome coated or some other gall resistant dry film lube.
Thanks,


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