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2.7 CIS inj. on a 3.2?
I have been looking for a "new" engine for a while and yesterday I bought a 3.2 -85 long block.
I don't have the money for an induction system yet, but couldn't I use the CIS from my -77 2.7? It wouldn't be optimal but better than nothing. From what I read the 2.7 CIS have slightly bigger intake runners and throttle body than the 204 hp 80-83 3 liter, so it shouldn't be that bad, right? I'm guessing that the CIS system will compensate for the displacement increasement, up to a point. Should I do something to help it? I'm also planing to use the distributor from my 2.7 as the 3.2 doesn't have any mechanical advance. Does this sound crazy you guys?
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The intake runner on the 2.7 are the same size as the US version of the 80-83 3.0 SC.
The large runners were only on the 78-79 US version and all the euro 3.0 systems. You will also need to make some sort of adapter plate to mate a CIS intake runner to a 3.2 head. The 2.7 distributor has the wrong gear to make the 2.7 a direct replacement for a 3.2. If you have a Euro 3.2 or late 3.2 the advance curve in the 2.7 distributor is also totally inappropriate.
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I have the 3.2 distributor so I can swap the gear, right? Yes, its a euro 3.2, so I guess the distributor needs recurving then or are there any better option?
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A search didn't help much, but:
Is it because the intake on the 3.2 head is shorter than on my 2.7 and because I need to make a smooth transition from the smaller runners to the bigger ports, right? Basically a spacer with a tapered ID?
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You need an adapter because the port shapes are different enough to cause a leak when attempting to join them.
You might in theory find that a step transition (small to large) is beneficial to low end performance so a "[i][b]smooth transition from the smaller runners to the bigger ports" really is not an issue. PMO makes a plastic manifold insulator that might work for you application.
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OK, I'll look into the PMO insulators.
You say that the 2.7 advance curve are inappropriate, do you have a suggestion for an appropriate curve if I have it re curved? Thanks for your input Henry!
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