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robrob10 03-08-2009 03:11 PM

Don't Know what part this is
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1236553788.jpg

all I know is that the part on top fits through the part on bottom
this would go to a 1980 911 sc

TimT 03-08-2009 03:28 PM

looks like the oil pump pick up...

question is how did it become separated from the oil pump?

The pick up tube epoxies into the oil pump.... have seen a few that have been knocked loose...

robrob10 03-08-2009 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimT (Post 4530935)
looks like the oil pump pick up...

question is how did it become separated from the oil pump?

The pick up tube epoxies into the oil pump.... have seen a few that have been knocked loose...

I believe that when the person that owned the cer before me brought it to the dealership this is what they removed from the car along with the oil sump plate. Do you think that maybe it got knocked loose and the dealership took it out?
-smith

robrob10 03-08-2009 04:23 PM

also what do you mean by epoxies to the oil pump?

TimT 03-08-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

also what do you mean by epoxies to the oil pump?
Meaning that tube is glued (epoxied) into the oil pump housing...

Post a pic of your oil pump if you have a chance?

robrob10 03-08-2009 04:44 PM

oh ok.
sorry, but where is the oil pump exactly? im kind of a rookie

robrob10 03-08-2009 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by robrob10 (Post 4531069)
oh ok.
sorry, but where is the oil pump exactly? im kind of a rookie

and I can definately get a pic if I can find it.

Flat6pac 03-08-2009 06:12 PM

The second piece is part of the update screen circa 1980 that the pickup sits into.Replaced the screen filter of the earlier years. The update helped maintain oil pickup in hard corners
Bruce

Aurel 03-08-2009 07:03 PM

To access the oil pump, you need to split the case.

MBruns 03-09-2009 04:26 AM

pieces
 
That is the scavenge pickup for the oil pump, if that fell off while running all the oil ended up in the engine and starved it with nothing in the tank, the scavenge side of the pump's job is to pull the oil that has been thru the engine and put it back in the tank. I have seen those loosen up where they are glued in but the way it fits into the screen kind of holds it from "falling out" when you drop the sump plate and screen its possible to silp it out of the pump if the epoxy is free. did you find metal in the engine, noise, hi oil temp ?

Mike Bruns JBRacing.com

robrob10 03-09-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MBruns (Post 4531792)
That is the scavenge pickup for the oil pump, if that fell off while running all the oil ended up in the engine and starved it with nothing in the tank, the scavenge side of the pump's job is to pull the oil that has been thru the engine and put it back in the tank. I have seen those loosen up where they are glued in but the way it fits into the screen kind of holds it from "falling out" when you drop the sump plate and screen its possible to silp it out of the pump if the epoxy is free. did you find metal in the engine, noise, hi oil temp ?

Mike Bruns JBRacing.com

yes there was metal in the engine, there was noise, but I don't know about the hi oil temp.
so i'm guessing I want to put these back into their proper spot? do I access this spot through the oil sump plate?

TimT 03-09-2009 04:42 PM

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yes there was metal in the engine, there was noise
Not to sugar coat it, but you probably have to rebuild the engine....

Split the case, have the components visually inspected, measured for tolerance.. If the oil pump is still good... you can epoxie the pick up back into the oil pump housing...replace all the worn components... etc...

MBruns 03-09-2009 05:50 PM

damage
 
I would take the engine apart and hopefully it can be rebuilt, putting the pump pickup back in place and starting it just to confirm its hurt bad might not leave you much more than the heads and valve covers, Just be sure to flush and clean the entire oil system, tank,front cooler,lines all of it before the new/repaired engine starts, toss or ultrasonicly clean the engine oil cooler. Best of luck, let us know if you have a question

Mike Bruns

robrob10 03-10-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimT (Post 4533383)
Not to sugar coat it, but you probably have to rebuild the engine....

Split the case, have the components visually inspected, measured for tolerance.. If the oil pump is still good... you can epoxie the pick up back into the oil pump housing...replace all the worn components... etc...

great thanks for the advice, but would there be any reason other than these parts simply coming loose, that the dealership might have taken these off for any reason?

TimT 03-10-2009 06:02 PM

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would there be any reason other than these parts simply coming loose, that the dealership might have taken these off for any reason?
No...

These pieces are not part of any sort of maintenance schedule etc....

Considering some of the other symptoms you mentioned... i.e. noise, and metal in the engine..

I would do a ground up rebuild on the engine...

Britwrench 03-11-2009 01:18 PM

The last time I saw that pipe on it's own was after it had fallen out, run through the engine and broken a timing chain.

It was very expensive to repair.


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