1977 3.0 motor trans. rebuild

[john1961]

I have a 1977 careers targa 3.0. Motor needs complete rebuild and want upgrades/modifications for oiling ,timing chain, head studs etc. And d SSI exhaust. Was given estimate for$30,000. Seems like ripoff. Opinions please. Also price for transmission rebuild

[john1961]

Carrera Targa 3.0. Sorry

[Turbo_pro]

It's my feeling that a vendor has the right to charge whatever they deem appropriate but that number seems high.
I would call Henry @ Supertec. Those types of engines are what they do.

760-728-3062 supertec1@earthlink.net

[john1961]

Thanks for the reply. I thought was out of line and now they want $2,500 for checking it out. WTF. There not installing new pistons or cylinders but are quoting all the upgrades and SSI exhaust.

I called (3) other shops and they all tell me around $18,000 including rebuilding feul reg. and painting all pans, parts as original so all I have to do is bolt it in, plug it in, add oil and fire up.

The other (3) shops all came in within $1,000-$1,200 of each other so seems like the first guy trying to really stick it to me. In addition the first guy I talked to tells me labor hours is around 115 hours. Everyone else about 60 hours.

I guess it was my fault for not asking what the cost of checking things out was going to be but Holly Crap Batman!! But I didn't think it was going to be that far out of line.

[john walker's workshop]

$30k and no new P&Cs. wow! even $18K sounds high, especially if they don't do the install and finish up the job. keep looking.

[john1961]

Just talked to another shop. Told me $15-$18,000. Doing ALL performance. I feel very comfortable with that. pAINTING PARTS ETC.

[john1961]

Sorry for spelling error. Doing all performance upgrades and painting pans, fan housing etc.

[john walker's workshop]

what are you going to get exactly, for $15-18K? new P&Cs, new oil pump, new intermediate shaft, new rockers and shafts, chains, sprockets, etc? hopefully.

[john1961]

Ok here was the estimate:

Rebuild 3.0 Carrera engine complete
Replace expoxy on timing covers
Rebuild cylinder heads complete
Set valve height and spring pressures
Remove all cylinder head studs and replace with Racewear head stud/nut kit
Replace connecting rod hardware with Racewear hardware kits
Polish rocker shafts and rockers
Remove all alum. oil port plugs in crank and engine block for cleaning oil passages and install new.
Resurface intake valve covers, oil strainer cover,intermediate shaft cover, intake manifold bases.
Acid clean oil cooler and pressure test
Refinish alum. altrnator fan and housing.
Strip and refinish engine tins
Magnaflux/polish cranksahft
Fly-cut cylinder heads.
Rebuild transmission complete with no major hard parts needed to be replaced such as gear sets or main bearings.

Parts:
Intermediate shaft (used)
Intermediate shaft bearing set.
Main bearing set
Rod bearing set
Engine gasket set - Top and Bottom end
Valve cover service kit
Racewear head stud kit
Racewear rod bolt set
Oil return tubes
Oil filter
Racing timing chain and ramp
Carrera Timing chain update kit
Update Timing chain idler/sprocket Left and right
Oil pressure switch
Oil temp switch/injection (used)
Alternator belt
New intake valves
New exhaust valves
Valve guide HD
Rocker shaft seal kit
Rocker shaft and arm (used)
Piston ring set
Valve spring kit
Cam tower oil fitting kit
Exhaust valve cover/Turbo
Oil pump lock tab
Fuel injectors
Rebuild fuel distributor
Rebuild fuel pressure regulator
Rebuild ignition distributor
Throttle bellcrank bushings
Cold start injector
Breather hose crank tooil tank
Air filter straps (rubber)
CIS Injection boot
Intake manifold boot
Heater hose
Oil lines cooler to tank
Ignition cap, rotor, coil
Stainless cover ignition wires
Spark plugs, fuel filter, air filter
Sach Power clutch/ alum. pressure plate and pilot bearing
Flywheel and pressure plate bolts
SSI header and heater box set
Oil lines for SSI
Oe type muffler
Stainless strap

[john1961]

As you can see NO New Cylinders or Pistons. Please, opinions that I can trust are welcome.

[john1961]

Oh by the way. This exact estimate was $28,000. I took the motor and trans. out as a unit and gave to the shop to evaluate. I since have spoke to a few other shops and they are telling me numbers around $18,000. I don't who to trust. I'm on East Coast-PA

[john walker's workshop]

just did a quick pricing for you. sorry about the sideways pic. seems $18K is in the ball park, w/P&Cs, which may vary a bit in price, depending on who sells them.

[john1961]

Didn't see fuel pressure reg etc rebuild, stripping painting tins, turbo valve cover upgrade, oil modification upgrade etc. Is the the $1,000 misc?
I will call you

[john walker's workshop]

painting tin is in the labor part. valve covers in the misc crap part. you may not even need the rebuilt WUR and fuel distributor. you could replace even more if necessary, like rocker shafts (which you would not polish), oil pump, complete intermediate shaft, if they don't pass inspection after disassembly.

[john1961]

Can we be safe to say that even if we were replacing oil pump, intermediate shaft and rocker shafts we would be no higher than $20,000?