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Tight 2.0 engine
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I got a 2.0 69 engine that is tight, almost frozen. I need a cheater bar to turn the crank. If I turn the crank 45 degrees its loose those 45 degrees, but then tightens. If I turn it around 360 degrees I can keep turning it, but it will seize again a few days later (well, I haven't timed it). I took the engine out of a running car but I haven't driven it very long, and just one time. It has been rebuilt by someone of unknown skill. Its built of assorted parts, mag E crank case T cylinders, T cams, unknown pistons (could be E) etc. I'm in mid teardown, it was not tight camshafts... Hopefully I get down to piston and cylinders later this week. Could someone take a guess what the problem could be?
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warped mag case binding the crank?
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That is my best bet too.
But wouldn't it bind all the time or free up the whole 360 degrees once I brake it loose?
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"seize again a few days later"
This tells you that the mechanical clearance is changing over time only thing that makes that happen is an organic process known as R U S T Rust in cast-iron cylinders.
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Possibly dry cylinders. With the cylinders up add some oil through plug holes and turn it over then reverse the side with plugs up.
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Well, I have come this far now:
![]() With the cylinders gone I can turn the crank by the flywheel, just a little initial sticktion. There was oil in the cylinders, I think from previous attempts from me to lubricate the pistons. Cylinders don't look that good, but no major rust: ![]() ![]() I have not even wiped of the C/P in the picture above, so they look a little messy. I'm thinking that pistons to cylinder clearance might be to tight or that the piston rings are wrong. I forgot to mention in my first post that the oil tank magnet was full of junk...
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Think I found the problem.
The piston skirt is too tight ! I haven't the right tools to measure the pistons, but I guess the pistons aren't supposed to get stuck?? The top of the pistons fits nicely, its just the "tabs" thats tight. that is not normal is it? ![]()
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not normal. in all my rebuilds etc, the pistons slide in and out without much effort (rings provide the friction). but i've never dealt with a 2.0.
Just checked my new P&C's in the shop (3.0), without rings, the pistons slide nicely in and out of the jugs. |
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