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Thus, here is my simplified classification of labor when rebuilding anything: a) Disassembly and organization b) Cleaning c) Inspection (visual and measurement) d) Reassembly Skipping steps or minimizing the importance of one over another decreases the odds of a successful build. MHO, Sherwood |
This is where I am now and cannot for the life of me figure how to get this thing off. Am I missing some hidden bolt? Can anyone make any suggestions?
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Are you saying the pressure plate is stuck or that you just can't get it past the trans studs?
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. The pressure plate will not budge. I have no idea what to do to get it off.
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If all 9 perimiter bolts have been removed, it should come off. Hit it with a hammer, the PP and FW might have gotten stuck to the clutch disk.
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The pressure plate bolts attach the timing ring gear and the pressure plate onto the flywheel. The clutch disc is between. Sounds like stiction is holding the parts together. Using a dead blow hammer or equivalent, remove the timing ring gear from the pressure plate. The rest should fall off.
If this is the first time doing this, are you using any reference materials or are you "winging it"? The forum is great, but you can save time by having source materials at your workbench while you wait for a response from this forum. Suggest downloading the parts manual so you can see the relationship between the various engine components. Porsche Original Parts Catalogue - Parts and Diagnostic Information - Porsche Service - Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG Hope this helps, Sherwood |
Thanks Sherwood, I've had that file downloaded in my desktop computer for a number of years. In addition to this forum and the Internet my reference materials are the Bentley manual and Wayne's engine rebuild book. Both have been extremely valuable pieces of material and I dont think I would have gotten this far without them. The downside to those books is they really don't talk about how to overcome challenges which make this forum such an invaluable resource. These threads are all about the experiences of guys stories of how they got through a set back or how they figured out a way to make it work.
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Cool build. I would also split the case and do the rebuild.
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I love your project! I wish I had time to do the same for my '87 3.2.
What is a ballpark estimate of paying a shop to do a rebuild of a 3.2 vs upgrading to a 3.4? Thanks. |
ChrisP, I decided against splitting the case because I really haven't seen a need for it. If as I get the heads off I find there is an unavoidable problem that I need to address then I may have no choice.
maclaren, I did look into having a shop do a rebuild for me. The estimate was $10-12k depending on what I ultimately decided on exhaust and intake mods like Extrude Hone. I only have so much to spend and with the chassis at the body shop I decided it was time for me to pony up and join the club of tear down and reassembly. At least to my meager skills what I'm doing is challenging enough but as I get more experience and have more time I will improve and take on other mechanical challenges with these cars. Getting the left cam tower off has been frustrating to say the least, Porsche does such a great job in putting these cars together I find the hardest part to any project I take on with my car is taking the damn thing apart. I'm almost there, I have yet to get the #3 rocker arm out on the exhaust side. I have been plugging away at it on and off periodically over the last couple of days. Hitting with brake clean and soaking it with PB Blaster to try and loosen it. The bolt is so tight I'm afraid of rounding the head and then not being able to do anything. The plan is one more day of soaking and then go at it hard with heat. Hopefully that will be enough to finesse it out, then I can get the heads off to the machine shop. |
So in the meantime I decided to go after the injectors so I could send them out for reconditioning
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Michael: Thanks for answering my question. My '87 Carrera coupe runs strong, but is starting to burn a bit of oil and smoke a little at 130k. I'll keep saving for the rebuild. I look forward to following the progress on your project. :) Cheers. -- Richard
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Great job so far, Michael. I considered selling my car in the search for more power (e.g. GT3) then changed my mind to go for a performance rebuild this winter. My engine is not smoking or lacking in power, I just want more to keep up on the track. I will be doing it myself using new Mahle 10.3:1 Euro Ps&Cs, 993 or 964 cams, keeping Motronic, single plug. Goal is 240hp with custom chip and headers. Hopefully, I can do this for < $10k, with larger valves, some head work, stiffer springs and ARP rod bolts. I will be splitting the case to replace the bearings, balance the rods etc. You're that far, you should re-consider. You don't want to do it twice, down the road.
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Nice! Really hoping to get to my 3.2l build one of these days. I cannot handle the leaks anymore!
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I've been speaking with the machine shop and the conversation led to talking about springs. So earlier this week I contacted EBS Racing and got a quote for racing springs, retainers, seats and the new style ARP fasterners with the trick little allen head tips for the exhaust manifold (that's got to be one of the coolest inventions ever). I understand them to be stiffer springs, but how much stiffer? What would the benefits be of having them installed? I'm not opposed to spending the extra if there is real benefit or value in doing the upgrade. Speaking of upgrade, I think it's time I make a decision on which exhaust to go with. The heads will be back from the machine shop and the injectors will be back and then it will be time to get everything back together. I've been thinking that I want an exhaust that will compliment the 964 cams and machine work that is being done so in all honesty the Rarelyl8 headers in my mind are the most logical choice. But it's gets cold in Mar/Apr and Oct/Nov at Summit Point and I'm not willing to compromise on having heat so going with SSIs make the most sense. I'm well aware that Brian builds a pipe with heat but from the various pics I've seen in the forum the heater boxes look very small and most of the comments have indicated the fit & finish is not that great. Truth be told, I really want the Rarelyl8 headers but if it means not having adequate heat, then they're not for me. Can anyone or does anyone have any experiences they can share about the heat exchangers with the Rarelyl8 headers? Does it seem like they produce enough heat? Do the heater boxes fit tight on the header pipes? The early version heater boxes appeared to have large gaps and fit very loosely. After having had some use, have the heater boxes shaken loose and rattle a lot like a failing catalytic converter? If I were top go with SSIs, how hard is back dating the heat? It looks like I need to add some hosing and cut another hole in the engine tin. Is that not correct? Thanks for all the comments and encouragement, if it wasn't for this board, I very seriously doubt I would have gotten as far as I have. I really do appreciate all the guidance I've received over the years. |
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When I built the 3.3SS engine for my SC, I used the 964 cams, Carrera heads and SSI exhausts. So far, I haven't noticed any falling off of power at higher rpms. I have the XDi ignition interrupter set at 7500 rpms but haven't pushed the engine that high yet. I also did the heat backdate and find that the car makes plenty of heat without the blower motor. I haven't had my engine on a dyno yet, but it is obviously making a good bit more hp than before. Good luck!
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The heat backing is quite easy. The best hose to use is the 2.5" scent: SCEET AIRCRAFT DUCTING from Aircraft Spruce
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