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Taper in new exhaust valve

How much taper is acceptable in a new exhaust valve?

Top of stem: 0.3527"
Bottom of stem: 0.3518"

Note, my micrometer doesn't have a vernier scale, but I snapped pictures of the measurements and estimated the 4th significant digit with some accuracy.

This exceeds the factory specs.

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Somewhat self-explanatory.

OK 0.3526"

Factory spec is .3519-.3523.
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What brand of valve? Intervalve by chance?
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No, TRW. Nice smooth ground surface.

But it felt looser in the guide than the intervalve. That is when I checked. Multiple times. Intervalve had virtually no taper. TRW valve did.

Pelican has authorized the return. And I'm going with an intervalve replacement.
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Good news. Sent the TRW valve back to pelican for a full refund.

Glenn said he had better luck with intervalve. So I ordered one of them.

Wow. 0.3526" top to bottom. Perfect. Not a hint of taper!

And the stem was nice and smoothly ground. A very nice exhaust valve.

Which is a little ironic, because lately intervalve has gotten a bad rep. That's why I chose TRW. Well maybe the Swiss made intervalve is the better valve after all. At least the one I just bought.
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I used the Intervalve 5 years ago on my 3.2 rebuild with no issues.
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This is all wrong.

The exhaust valve need to have taper, because the head end of the valve get more hot and expand more.
If you have a valve with no taper it's not porsche or OEM like TRW.

From porsche data book:

Exhaust valve (conical) 8,94 - 8,96 x 109 mm

Intake valve (sodium) 8,97 x 110,1 mm

The inlet valve is both thicker and longer.

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Except the running clearance new is 2-3x the thermal expansion. And a worn in guide ( within limits) is 5-6x more clearance than the thermal expansion of the valve stem. So it is not possible to seize the stem in the guide.

The data I have doesn't say anything about a desired taper. Just cylindrical dimension.
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Hi.

The data is from this 964 / 993 engine repair manual:

http://www.pcarworkshop.com/images/a/ae/AfterSales_Training_-_Air_Cooled_Engine_Repair_-_geolab.pdf

Page 16.

But the taper for the exhaust valve is the same 3,0 and up.

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Thanks for the link, great info.

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