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Cams and Rockers, I say John at DRC. Call him, he can guide you as to what is available for your needs and use.

He does beautiful work, price is reasonable IMHO:

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Sub'd! I'm trying to decide on which way to go for my 87?
All the best,
Terry

German Precision in CA for the heads.

I used Competition Engineering and was very happy, well regarded shop. Had all parts measured by Zim like crank, cams and Pistons/cylinders.

I hear bad things about Competition Engineering.....

Noted


Anyone had any experience with xtremecylinderheads?


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Xtreme is great for porting, but pricey.

I sent my heads, pistons, cylinders, rockers, and rocker shafts to cgarr. I was Xtremely :D happy with his cost, communication, turnaround time, and quality of work.

No need for a bigger oil pump unless you're going crazy with the rest of the build.

Scott,
Are you talking about the one in Lake Isabella, CA . . . ??
I just spoke to a 356 guy yesterday who said they do good work . . . :confused:

But, people and circumstances do change . . .

Regards,

If you don't send your heads to "cgarr", you will be ripped off. Forget all the other recs above.

You'll probably be surprised how nice your crank will be. I bet a light polish will be all that's needed.

That would be them. As they say, you can't please all the people all of the time. Unfortunately, I hear they are pleasing just some of the people some of the time.

Plus, there are a lot of other places with stellar reputations to choose from that do the same jobs.

Talking with a local shop to start a rebuild on mine next month. I am fairly certain i am going to go to a 3.4L . If you have to replace your p&c's for any reason its actually not much cost difference to increase displacement. You can send the cylinders to EBS and have them bore / replate for 3.4L. Then buy JE pistons, total cost going this route was about $2100. Add in a tune, cams and other odds and ends and its not too much more cost wise, a new set of euro p&c's is about $3k.

Might not be worth while if you are already at euro compression in terms of gains, but may be worth looking into further if you go 3.4L with matching 10.5:1 comp pistons.

Wish i didnt have to contend with CA smog, otherwise i would go twin spark and PMO's :(.

Tippy is not one to brag (unlike me when it comes to a/c :D), but his cgarr done heads are on a monster power, turbo engine - aka: pretty good service endorsement right thar! :)

HAHA, cgarr is the man on these.

I sent my heads to anchor atlantic - Kudos for great work About – Anchor Atlantic Enterprises
I sent my cams to Elgin cams once again great work http://elgincams.com/ He will walk you through what you want. SC, sport grind etc if applicable to yours..

I used a local machine shop to clean balance crank, flywheel, pressure plate, rods etc..

If you can use a 930 oil pump...Go for it...

Looking forward to hearing about your work...I just went through this whole process myself awhile ago ...and be ready to fork over more and more money. I just about replaced everything.

Slippery slope mate...Best of luck

x4 on cgarr for the heads, also rockers and shafts

I will talk to Craig. Thanks bunch.

You said it already have the euro p&c on the car, at this point I do not know how much more hp for the money 3.4 would give me. I was thinking may be 3.5 going similar route you suggested.

ITBs also on the table being thought of.

Thanks yous

I want to be in and out before temptations get a hold of me :D


Does anyone have a phone number for Craig "cgarr"? Is it G2 Performance in MI? Could not find him online.

Just PM him here, that is his Pelican ID.

I should add, he just did the heads for my rebuild, and while I can't report yet on how well they work, they look fantastic. :D

This is just stupid......

I'm stupid because I want to save a fellow San Antonian money?!?! Please enlighten me.

I don't know if you are stupid. Are you?

What you said was stupid. Here it is again:

Saying that any other shop would "rip off" the OP is stupid. Telling the OP to ignore all the other recommendations is stupid.

^ Well, you can get on your high-horse, and ride off, bub!

Really? That is your response? Wow.....

So, if Craig can rebuild heads for a fraction of the costs of other shops, why wouldn't you?

Like wasting money? That's the definition of stupid there....

If he charges what he charged me years ago, I assure you, no one can touch his pricing. Even in the magnitude of X's. Lastly, what shop will get your heads Friday evening and have them shipped out the following Monday morning?

Oh, I don't know, seems pretty smart to me.

Wow. Everyone else should just close their doors!

One definition of stupid is thinking that all head work is the same.

Another definition of stupid is picking someone to do your head work based on price and turnaround time.

I have no idea what Craig does when rebuilding heads. Does he do any flow work? What kind of valve job does he do? What parts does he use? I don't know if his work is great, good, just okay, or bad. How much and what kind of experience does he have? How long has he been doing Porsche machine work?

Assuming he does great work and uses the right parts, he may be a great option. But he certainly is not the only great option.

-Flycut mating to cylinder surface
-Lapped valves to seats
-Soda blasted
-All spring pressures tested and replaced if out of spec
-Exhaust studs replaced that were missing
-Guides replaced due to mechanical overrev
-Did not do 3-angle valve job per my request


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Tip, keep in mind the axiom regarding wrestling with pigs!

That really tells me nothing and has zero to do with the point I was making.

The point was, and is, that there are many good places to send heads. That you should not tell the OP that he will get "ripped off" if he sends his heads to anyone else or that he should ignore all other recommendations.

Please provide a recommendation if you have one. Please post a warning about a shop if you have one. But don't do what you did in post #10.

I'll stop rolling in the *****....... ;)

Would a happy face plastered right after my "ignoring recs" made you feel better?

Geez....

Craig is an enthusiast who happens to do heads and rockers. I've read dozens that have used his service.

My wife has spent more on her hair in one sitting than he's charged for 3.2 head work.

I will always throw a rec. out for him......... :)

I also decided to go itbs and weighing in options here whether to build a system myself or get an off the shelf kit with an engine management. I always wanted itbs and this will be a good opportunity to integrate it into my build.


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I had my heads done by Ollies machine shop he was in cali then,but i believe now is Arizona..Google him

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Yes i have the most awsome set of heads for my turbo. If you look several pages back in my rebuild thread below you can see the heads. They were cnc ported, twin plugged, flame ringed, oversized valves with 7mm instead of 8mm stems, inconel exhaust valves, titanuim retainers. welded up the injector notch. Excellent work and yeah it was expensive. he has bunch of heads in the shop when i was there that were being manufactured for the singer engines. He uses his own casting from 3.6 turbo heads to make them.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/763281-well-i-its-finally-time-pull-out-efi-swap-will-long-one.html

thanks Ken

Keep Us Posted Brother! :D

Berk, here's what I did when I put mine back together after tearing it apart:
Heads, Anchor Atlantic. Bob Hirsch was pretty easy to work with and was in my opinion reasonable.
Cams, Elgin Cams. Demi Elgin was a good match for what I was doing.
Just like everyone else, there are things along the way that come up or you do while your in there because it makes perfect sense at the time.
Although all my stuff was very basic and mild in the way of upgrades, if I ever get another car and I go through this process again, it will definitely be all track minded and would not hesitate to go right back to either of these two guys. I was really happy with the product I was given back and the service I received along the way.