BMW BoxerCup Action

[boxercup]

BMW Motorrad BoxerCup 2003 Daytona

Dateline: Daytona, March, 5th, 2003

Weather conditions have teams scrambling to set-up BoxerCup bikes for wet running. This track does not favor the soft Metzler Rennsport rain tire due to uneven loading forces in the banked turns, in fact it will tear them up, should they be necessary.

THU

Mostly Cloudy
Low 64°F
High 83°F

FRI

Scattered Thunderstorms
Low 63°F
High 78°F

SAT

Thunderstorms
Low 57°F
High 78°F

SUN

Scattered Showers
Low 54°F
High 74°F

Other than the proven contenders, look for some consistant rider to emerge the winner on this fast track. Rain might bring out a new skilled rider to steal the race.

The one to watch is #46 Brian Parrott. He hails from California, where his family has a Honda dealership. He is a very bright and up-coming racer.

He placed 6th in the BoxerCup Series last year and is smooth, consistant and has had extensive experience at Daytona late last year testing various set-ups for BMW Motorrad. He turned some very impressive times. He helped spec out the protocol for the BoxerCup bikes for the Daytona race. It was determined through his testing to go to a higher rear drive ratio as the BoxerCup "S" gearing was too low and the BC bike was topping out to early (RPM/TOP SPEED), additionally, other tricks were found to work well on this high speed track. We will see how well he does in traffic at high speed.

We wish him success and a high degree of luck!

It is believed that his BoxerCup bike #40 is the best prepared of the USA entrants.

This will be an exciting race due to the speed factor. Track condition/wind/bike preparation/skill will rule.

This is a short race>>>>DO NOT BLINK!

Fot those that can't make it>>>SpeedChannel>>Turn up the volume....


FORMAT: TEAM PILOT NR. COUNTRY


1 BMW BoxerCup Team Holland Lex van Dijk 3 NL
2 BMW Motorrad Belgium/Bavarian Motorsport Dirk Buylinckx 4 B
3 Motorrad Senger Racing Team Andy Hofmann 5 CH
4 BMW Group Niderlassungen Racing Team Markus Barth 6 D
5 BMW Motorrad Austria-Hinterreiter Thomas Hinterreiter 7 A
6 Auto Sport Busquets Josep Maria Busquets 8 E
7 Dream Car Team Rosana Scoleri 9 I
8 Team Reseau France François Ciciliani 10 F
9 BMW BoxerCup Team Holland Robert van der Molen 11 NL
10 BMW Motorcycles of Atlanta Ricky Orlando 12 USA
11 Hakvoort-Klipfel Racing Michael Galinski 13 D
12 BMW BoxerCup Team Holland Jeroen Oudeman 14 NL
13 Auto Sport Busquets Fernando Cristóbal 16 E
14 BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Jimmy Lewis 17 USA
15 BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Jason Perez 18 USA
16 BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Jay Springsteen 19 USA
17 BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Gerald Young 20 USA
18 BMW Motorrad Belgium/Lejeune Motorsport Eric Lejeune 21 B
19 BoxerCup Motorrad Great Britain Matt Layt 22 UK
20 Foothills BMW Tripp Nobles 23 USA
21 BMW Motorcycles of Daytona Kurt Kossmann 24 USA
22 Brattin BMW Dave Campbell 25 USA
23 Westchester BMW Motorcycles Sylwester Lemanski 26 USA
24 Auto Sport Busquets Agustí Busquets 27 E
25 BMW Motorycles of Cherry Hill Nate Kern 29 USA
26 VIP Road Racing World Steve Atlas 30 USA Road Racing World
27 VIP Motorcyclist Magazine Aaron Frank 31 USA cancelled
28 VIP Cycle Worlds Magazine Brian Catterson 32 USA Cycle World
29 VIP BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Greg White 33 USA Speed channel
30 Superwheels Gabriele Perri 34 I
31 Das Boxer Team Norbert Rebholz 35 D
32 Auto Sport Busquets Alex Busquets 36 E
33 BMW Motorrad Belgium/Lievens Mechanics Steven Casaer 37 B
34 Touring Sport BMW Frank Shockley 38 USA
35 VIP Motorrad Zeitschrift Guido Stösser 39 D
36 VIP Motociclismo Federico Aliverti 40 I
37 Bernhardt + Röhrich Klaus Nies 41 D
38 Team ADT Sport Javier Valera 44 E
39 BMW Motorrad Belgium/Herpigny Motor Sébastien Legrelle 45 B
40 BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Brian Parriott 46 USA
41 BoxerCup Motorrad Great Britain Richard Cooper 47 UK
42 BMW Motorrad Belgium/RAF'S Motorshop Koen Vleugels 49 B
43 Team Reseau France Guillaume Dietrich 50 F
44 Team Reseau France Laurry Fremy 54 F
45 Karl Maier Team Witec Peter Öttl 65 D
46 Team ADT Sport Jorge Díaz 66 E
47 Dream Car Team Alessandro Tomassoni 69 I
48 BoxerCup Motorrad Great Britain Barry Burrell 77 UK
49 Dream Car Team Roberto Panichi 99 I

[Bill Vining]

Hey guys,

A great day at Daytona today! The weather finally cleared for some racing action. Watching the BoxerCup practice was fantastic! Sure is good to see BMW racing again at Daytona. The BoxerCup bikes sound like a squadron of aircraft shooting down the backstretch! Awesome!

Here's today's results:

3/5/2003
Barth, Parriott, Perez Fastest In First BMW Boxer Cup Practice At Daytona

Copyright 2003, Roadracing World Publishing, Inc.

BMW Group Niderlassungen Racing Team's Markus Barth set the fastest time in the first BMW Boxer Cup practice session Wednesday afternoon at Daytona International Speedway at 2:07.503 for an average lap speed of 100.515 mph.

"For me everything is new," Barth told reporters. "I've never raced on oval, so I'm very surprised that I have fast time. The tactic for the race is very important here, and also the slipstream. I used the slipstream from some other guys, so I feel that's the best solution for the race."

Americans Brian Parriott, who will contest the entire nine-round BMW Boxer Cup series, and 18-year-old Jason Perez were second and third-fastest respectively.

Wednesday Afternoon BMW Boxer Cup Practice Times (all on BMW R1100 S):

1. Markus Barth, Germany, 2:07.503
2. Brian Parriott, USA, 2:07.527
3. Jason Perez, USA, 2:07.586
4. Roberto Panichi, Italy, 2:07.620
5. Andy Hofmann, Switzerland, 2:07.883
6. Thomas Hinterreiter, Austria, 2:08.142
7. Richard Cooper, UK, 2:08.444
8. Sebastien Legrelle, Belgium, 2:08.471
9. Michael Galinski, Germany, 2:09.117
10. Eric Lejeune, Belgium, 2:09.428
11. Guillaume Dietrich, France, 2:09.602
12. Fernando Cristobal, Spain, 2:10.140
13. Lex Van Dijk, Netherlands, 2:10.150
14. Koen Vleugels, Belgium, 2:10.170
15. Francois Cicilliani, France, 2:10.699
16. Ricky Orlando, USA, 2:10.720
17. Alessandro Tomassoni, Italy, 2:10.933
18. Steven Casaer, Belgium, 2:11.028
19. Steve Atlas, USA, 2:11.040
20. Jay Springsteen, USA, 2:11.179
21. Josep Maria Busquets, Spain, 2:11.259
22. Norbert Rebholz, Germany, 2:11.303
23. Peter Ottl, Germany, 2:11.505
24. Jeroen Oudeman, Holland, 2:11.813
25. Dirk Buylinckz, Belgium, 2:11.949
26. Agusti Busquets, Spain, 2:12.002
27. Alex Busquets, Spain, 2:12.078
28. Javier Valera, Spain, 2:12.510
29. Laurry Fremy, France, 2:12.701
30. Klaus Nies, Germany, 2:12.857
31. Matt Layt, UK, 2:13.883
32. Nate Kern, USA, 2:14.409
33. Jimmy Lewis, USA, 2:14.455
34. Gabriele Perri, Italy, 2:14.923
35. Frank Shockley, USA, 2:14.978
36. Brian Catterson, USA, 2:15.616
37. Barry Burrell, UK, 2:15.664
38. Dave Campbell, USA, 2:15.924
39. Gerald Young, USA, 2:17.239
40. Guido Stosser, Germany, 2:17.587
41. Rosana Scoleri, Italy, 2:18.236
42. Robert Van Der Molen, Holland, 2:18.253
43. Greg White, USA, 2:19.688
44. Jorge Diaz, Spain, 2:24.408

[Mike900]

Thanks for the report.

Markus Barth ran in the top 15 every once in a while during a full year in World Superbike in 2000.

Tripp Noble knows his way around Daytona pretty well.

Go Springer!

I don't think the AMA will run any races in the rain at Daytona.

[motion]

Thanks for the update, Bill. Go USA!!! Where's Trip?

[RacerWannaBe]

Day 1 Practice Rank
BMW Motorrad Austria-Hinterreiter Thomas Hinterreiter 7 A 6
BMW Motorrad Belgium/Bavarian Motorsport Dirk Buylinckx 4 B 25
BMW Motorrad Belgium/Lejeune Motorsport Eric Lejeune 21 B 10
BMW Motorrad Belgium/Lievens Mechanics Steven Casaer 37 B 18
BMW Motorrad Belgium/Herpigny Motor Sébastien Legrelle 45 B 8
BMW Motorrad Belgium/RAF'S Motorshop Koen Vleugels 49 B 14

Motorrad Senger Racing Team Andy Hofmann 5 CH 5

BMW Group Niderlassungen Racing Team Markus Barth 6 D 1
Hakvoort-Klipfel Racing Michael Galinski 13 D 9
Das Boxer Team Norbert Rebholz 35 D 22
VIP Motorrad Zeitschrift Guido Stösser 39 D 40
Bernhardt + Röhrich Klaus Nies 41 D 30
Karl Maier Team Witec Peter Öttl 65 D 23

Auto Sport Busquets Josep Maria Busquets 8 E 21
Auto Sport Busquets Fernando Cristóbal 16 E 12
Auto Sport Busquets Agustí Busquets 27 E 26
Auto Sport Busquets Alex Busquets 36 E 27
Team ADT Sport Javier Valera 44 E 28
Team ADT Sport Jorge Díaz 66 E 44

Team Reseau France François Ciciliani 10 F 15
Team Reseau France Guillaume Dietrich 50 F 11
Team Reseau France Laurry Fremy 54 F 29

Dream Car Team Roberto Panichi 99 I 4
Dream Car Team Alessandro Tomassoni 69 I 18
Dream Car Team Rosana Scoleri 9 I 41
Superwheels Gabriele Perri 34 I 34
VIP Motociclismo Federico Aliverti 40 I --

BMW BoxerCup Team Holland Lex van Dijk 3 NL 13
BMW BoxerCup Team Holland Robert van der Molen 11 NL 42
BMW BoxerCup Team Holland Jeroen Oudeman 14 NL 24

BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Brian Parriott 46 USA 2
BMW Motorycles of Cherry Hill Nate Kern 29 USA 32
Brattin BMW Dave Campbell 25 USA 38
Westchester BMW Motorcycles Sylwester Lemanski 26 USA --
Foothills BMW Tripp Nobles 23 USA --
BMW Motorcycles of Daytona Kurt Kossmann 24 USA --
BMW Motorcycles of Atlanta Ricky Orlando 12 USA 16
BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Jimmy Lewis 17 USA 33
BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Jason Perez 18 USA 3
BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Jay Springsteen 19 USA 20
BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Gerald Young 20 USA 39
Touring Sport BMW Frank Shockley 38 USA 35
VIP Road Racing World Steve Atlas 30 USA Road Racing World 19
VIP Motorcyclist Magazine Aaron Frank 31 USA cancelled --
VIP Cycle Worlds Magazine Brian Catterson 32 USA Cycle World 36
VIP BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Greg White 33 USA Speed Channel 43

BoxerCup Motorrad Great Britain Matt Layt 22 UK 31
BoxerCup Motorrad Great Britain Richard Cooper 47 UK 7
BoxerCup Motorrad Great Britain Barry Burrell 77 UK 37

[RacerWannaBe]

Thought I had it lined up to make sense......
Last number should be todays rank sorted by country.

Number before country is bike #.

[roger albert]

Thanks for the updates all. God I wish I'd made it out there to see it. Stupid !@#$$%^ dayjob sigh...

Look forward to hearing more.

roger

[Joe]

RacerWannaBe list

Day 1 Practice Rank
BMW Motorrad Austria-Hinterreiter Thomas Hinterreiter 7 A.......6

BMW Motorrad Belgium/Bavarian Motorsport Dirk Buylinckx 4 B..25

BMW Motorrad Belgium/Lejeune Motorsport Eric Lejeune 21 B...10

BMW Motorrad Belgium/Lievens Mechanics Steven Casaer 37 B.18

BMW Motorrad Belgium/Herpigny Motor Sébastien Legrelle 45 B..8

BMW Motorrad Belgium/RAF'S Motorshop Koen Vleugels 49 B.....14

Motorrad Senger Racing Team Andy Hofmann 5 CH.......................5

BMW Group Niderlassungen Racing Team Markus Barth 6 D..........1

Hakvoort-Klipfel Racing Michael Galinski 13 D.................................9

Das Boxer Team Norbert Rebholz 35 D........................................22

VIP Motorrad Zeitschrift Guido Stösser 39 D................................40

Bernhardt + Röhrich Klaus Nies 41 D...........................................30

Karl Maier Team Witec Peter Öttl 65............................................23

Auto Sport Busquets Josep Maria Busquets 8 E..........................21

Auto Sport Busquets Fernando Cristóbal 16 E..........................12

Auto Sport Busquets Agustí Busquets 27 E...............................26

Auto Sport Busquets Alex Busquets 36 E..................................27

Team ADT Sport Javier Valera 44 E............................................28

Team ADT Sport Jorge Díaz 66 E................................................4 4



Team Reseau France François Ciciliani 10 F...............................15

Team Reseau France Guillaume Dietrich 50 F.............................11

Team Reseau France Laurry Fremy 54 F.....................................29


Dream Car Team Roberto Panichi 99 I........................................4

Dream Car Team Alessandro Tomassoni 69 I.............................18

Dream Car Team Rosana Scoleri 9 I...........................................41

Superwheels Gabriele Perri 34 I................................................. 34

VIP Motociclismo Federico Aliverti 40 I.........................................--


BMW BoxerCup Team Holland Lex van Dijk 3 NL.........................13

BMW BoxerCup Team Holland Robert van der Molen 11 NL........42

BMW BoxerCup Team Holland Jeroen Oudeman 14 N.................24

BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Brian Parriott 46 USA...........2

BMW Motorycles of Cherry Hill Nate Kern 29 USA........................32

Brattin BMW Dave Campbell 25 USA............................................38

Westchester BMW Motorcycles Sylwester Lemanski 26 USA........--

Foothills BMW Tripp Nobles 23 USA..............................................--

BMW Motorcycles of Daytona Kurt Kossmann 24 USA..................--

BMW Motorcycles of Atlanta Ricky Orlando 12 USA.......................16

BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Jimmy Lewis 17 USA.............33

BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Jason Perez 18 USA..............3

BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Jay Springsteen 19 USA........20

BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Gerald Young 20 USA............39

Touring Sport BMW Frank Shockley 38 USA..................................35

VIP Road Racing World Steve Atlas 30 USA Road Racing World...19

VIP Motorcyclist Magazine Aaron Frank 31 USA cancelled.............--

VIP Cycle Worlds Magazine Brian Catterson 32 USA Cycle World.36

VIP BMW Motorrad USA Stars & Stripes Greg White 33 USA Speed Channel........................................... .............................................43


BoxerCup Motorrad Great Britain Matt Layt 22 UK.......................31

BoxerCup Motorrad Great Britain Richard Cooper 47 UK..............7

BoxerCup Motorrad Great Britain Barry Burrell 77 UK..................37

[SilverR1100S]

Hi there

Hey Guys
great to see your post here.
I love to read the very latest news from the boxercup.

I"m very curious what the first race will bring us.
It looks oke for the american drivers I must say.

I hope you can post lots of pic's from the race and bikes for I can only see them on eurosport on sunday.

ggggrrrrr wish I was overthere, but I will se them here in Assen in june.

keep up the good work
see you
Coos

[RacerWannaBe]

Thanks Joe.... appreciate your help. Too bad HTML isn't WYSIWYG! Damn tabs!

Rick

[boxercup]

Things are looking better as far as the weather goes.

Looks like we will see some dead-on racing.

Turn up the volume!


FRI
Isolated Thunderstorms
Low 64°F
High 78°F

SAT
Scattered Thunderstorms
Low 60°F
High 79°F

SUN
Partly Cloudy
Low 58°F
High 78°F

[Bill Vining]

Another great day of racing!

We came in on the back side of the crash between Valera and Perez. Perez's crew had his bike at the NASCAR 3-4 bathrooms hosing off some dirt and grass. Turned out, the frame was cracked on his bike. He jumped on a backup bike for the first round of qualifying.


3/6/2003
Tripp Nobles Fastest In BMW Boxer Cup Practice

Copyright 2003, Roadracing World Publishing, Inc.

Veteran racer Tripp Nobles set the fastest lap time in BMW Boxer Cup practice on his O/Brien/Rough Stock Racing/Foothills BMW.

BMW Boxer Cup practice has seen extremely aggressive riding by many of the International racers, and the session was stopped for a multi-bike crash in turn one during the Thursday morning session. Javier Valera was able to ride his BMW away from the incident.

American teenager Jason Perez crashed in a separate incident in the chicane. Perez's BMW suffered heavy damage, but Perez was relatively uninjured in the fall.

Thursday Morning BMW Boxer Cup Practice Times (all on BMW R1100S):

1. Tripp Nobles, 2:06.092
2. Brian Parriott, 2:06.300
3. Thomas Hinterreiter, 2:06.584
4. Markus Barth, 2:06.712
5. Sebastien Legrelle, 2:06.853
6. Roberto Panichi, 2:06.995
7. Richard Cooper, 2:07.074
8. Eric Lejeune, 2:07.207
9. Andy Hofmann, 2:07.232
10. Jason Perez, 2:07.383
11. Alessandro Tomassoni, 2:07.792
12. Steven Casaer, 2:07.921
13. Jay Springsteen, 2:07.923
14. Fernando Cristobal, 2:08.273
15. Michael Galinski, 2:08.314
16. Laurry Fremy, 2:08.327
17. Ricky Orlando, 2:08.509
18. Agusti Busquets, 2:08.531
19. Peter Ottl, 2:08.605
20. Lex Van Dijk, 2:08.769
21. Jeroen Oudeman, 2:09.021
22. Koen Vleugels, 2:09.229
23. Steve Atlas, 2:09.307
24. Norbert Rebholz, 2:09.340
25. Klaus Nies, 2:09.357


3/6/2003
British Teen Richard Cooper On Provisional BMW Boxer Cup Pole At Daytona

Copyright 2003, Roadracing World Publishing, Inc.

"All weekend I've been trying to learn the track since I've never been here before," 19-year-old Richard Cooper told reporters. "I was kind of running at the back really trying to get clear track time. Watching the other classes I see that you need to have to be with a bunch of riders to get a good time. I thought I'd go out and try to get in with the bunches and get into the slipstream and see how much it makes a difference, and it sure did. I was really surprised that I was over a second quicker than anybody out there and it gives you real good confidence for the weekend to come."

Cooper raced in the British CB500 Cup, the Honda Hornet Cup, finished second in the 2001 British Supersport Championship and finished sixth in the 2002 BMW Boxer Cup Championship.

Thursday's BMW Boxer Cup Qualifying Results (all on BMW R1100S):

1. Richard Cooper, UK, 2:04.615
2. Sebastien Legrelle, Belgium, 2:05.622
3. Jason Perez, USA, 2:05.666
4. Tripp Nobles, USA, 2:05.854
5. Brian Parriott, USA, 2:06.043
6. Fernando Cristobal, Spain, 2:06.160
7. Roberto Panichi, Italy, 2:06.169
8. Andy Hofmann, Switzerland, 2:06.241
9. Guillaume Dietrich, France, 2:06.528
10. Markus Barth, Germany, 2:06.598
11. Steven Casaer, Belgium, 2:06.599
12. Thomas Hinterreiter, Austria, 2:06.636
13. Federico Aliverti, Italy, 2:07.023
14. Lex Van Dijk, Netherlands, 2:07.305
15. Alessandro Tomassoni, Italy, 2:07.336
16. Eric Lejeune, Belgium, 2:07.469
17. Michael Galinski, Germany, 2:07.591
18. Klaus Nies, Germany, 2:07.931
19. Jay Springsteen, USA, 2:08.094
20. Norbert Rebholz, Germany, 2:08.381
21. Peter Ottl, Germany, 2:08.493
22. Laurry Fremy, France, 2:08.617
23. Robert Van Der Molen, Netherlands, 2:08.732
24. Jeroen Oudeman, Netherlands, 2:09.199
25. Steve Atlas, USA, 2:09.374
26. Agusti Busquets, Spain, 2:09.779
27. Josep Maria Busquets, Spain, 2:10.256
28. Koen Vleugels, Belgium, 2:10.383
29. Barry Burrell, UK, 2:10.500
30. Francois Cicilliani, France, 2:10.530
31. Alex Busquets, Spain, 2:10.692
32. Ricky Orlando, USA, 2:10.736
33. Gabriele Perri, ITaly, 2:10.796
34. Nate Kern, USA, 2:11.015
35. Matt Layt, UK, 2:11.415
36. Dave Campbell, USA, 2:12.280
37. Rosana Scoleri, Italy, 2:12.354
38. Frank Shockley, USA, 2:12.524
39. Javier Valera, Spain, 2:12.654
40. Guido Stosser, Germany, 2:13.472
41. Greg White, USA, 2:13.711
42. Jimmy Lewis, USA, 2:14.269
43. Brian Catterson, USA, 2:14.290
44. Gerald Young, USA, 2:15.961
45. Sylvester Lemanski, USA, 2:17.477
46. Jorge Diaz, Spain, 2:21.573

[boxercup]

Bill Vining,

This is great, YOU ARE THE BEST!

Thanks from all of us here for your posts!

Cheers,
Robert Foster

PS: Watch Brian Parriott #46, I favor him to do well.

[roger albert]

Yes, Thanks Bill.

I'm pretty damn impressed that a guy that young and completely new to the course can be over a full second ahead of the nearest competitor. And in a field where you can't 'blame' it on the bike. Wow. Very impressive.

Do all the bikes run stock wheels? Anyone know just what _can_ be changed?

thanks
roger

[Bill Vining]

Yes, the bikes run stock wheels. I know they have the Laser exhaust w/ the BMW matching chip. Of course, the mirrors, turn signals, headlight, etc., are gone. Metzeler supplies them with sticky DOT tires. Other than that, I believe that's it. The track commentator said they put out 115hp. Of course, we all know that isn't the case. I'll try to get some more info on the bikes.

One other thing: I'm didn't get a good look at the engine. I wonder if they are running a dual-plug head? We've seen several Boxers (S included) with the new head at the BMW display area.

[remedy70]

Originally posted by SilverR1100S


I hope you can post lots of pic's from the race and bikes for I can only see them on eurosport on sunday.

Coos, what time are they broadcasting the race on sunday? I can´t seem to find it in their schedule.

[CarlosT]

Yeah this is way cool! Me and Joe are trying to rile up the Buellers by telling them that Tripp Nobles was faster on a Beemer than on his beloved Buell at Daytona. Yes gentlemen...add that to Beemer bragging rights... the Ss are turning in qualifying times equal or better than Buell Lightning Series bikes from last October.

[roger albert]

That's cool, I hadn't thought to even compare them. Any numbers or a link to them?

roger

CarlosT
Yeah this is way cool! Me and Joe are trying to rile up the Buellers by telling them that Tripp Nobles was faster on a Beemer than on his beloved Buell at Daytona. Yes gentlemen...add that to Beemer bragging rights... the Ss are turning in qualifying times equal or better than Buell Lightning Series bikes from last October.

I think you hit the nail on the head regarding Joe's question on the Buell board.

We both know from experience, though the Buell has numerically higher Torque/HP numbers, the powerband falls way off in the upper RPM range, just where racer's are likely to be riding, and where the S-bike has the advantage.

[Joe]

Peckerhead

HP is HP the more the better at Daytona where your full throttle about 2/3 of the time. You set your gearing accordingly

Here's the link to the Ball busting of the Buller's(time Comparison)

http://www.sacborg.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=005519