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Chris Geuting 12-20-2004 06:12 PM

ckcarr;Who gave you the right to determine who "serves a useful purpose on the board" and who gets terminated or not when the person doesn't serve that useful purpose anymore?Is your real name GOD by chance and you are just to humble to call yourself this way...What I really love about those discussions that you get to look deep down into the "souls" of some people and get to see who I would like to drink a beer with or ride and who don't...
The riding "fraternity" or biking "brotherhood" is mostly the same fake b.s. likke the society itself...
Bikerfish like I said I don't know what your problem is but if you can't even critizise the banking system and the atrocities that are committed in Israel without beeing called a nazi than it shows me that the "protocols" are everything but a forgery!
And I had an 1100S right from the beginning and rode it for 3 years after I bought a "lowly" 1150RS because the tank was bigger...
Terminate me especially since I am of no "useful purpose" for the 1100S crowd anymore...Euthanesia for RS-lowlifes on the S-Board;maybe we should have a poll...;-)
Next year on a S(T)1200 maybe...
Chris tmas spirit;gotta love it...

j_dock2 12-20-2004 06:17 PM

I liked the Tara Reid parts, and the interesting history parts. I didn't like the race baiting and historical revisionism much.

This is clearly the limbo thread. "How low... can ya go?"

ckcarr 12-20-2004 06:22 PM

Chris your problem among many is you don't know when to shut up.

bikerfish1100 12-20-2004 06:24 PM

i'll take correction on my statement regarding your prior S ownership Chris. and it's not that i object to your criticisms, i object to your factual inaccuracies and ethnic/religious prejudices.
so... how about those Red Sox??

Chris Geuting 12-20-2004 06:36 PM

There we wonder about the absence of peace in the world and can't even get along on this board,even among "mature" BMW riders...
Let's try to do that and respect others even if they have different thoughts...
I never got personal like some guys but only discussed different ideas or views...
And I'm no Red Sox fan either as I wear only black socks...;-)
Time out in the name of the true meaning of the Christmas spirit...
Chris

shannonnunley 12-20-2004 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by j_dock2
I liked the Tara Reid parts, and the interesting history parts. I didn't like the race baiting and historical revisionism much.

This is clearly the limbo thread. "How low... can ya go?"

I felt so bad about my role in hijcacking this thread, I sent you a little somthing dude.

http://www.terra.es/personal6/server...stars/1002.jpg

bikerfish1100 12-20-2004 07:52 PM

oh, that is LOW!
way down low.
umm, how cum my UPS person don't look like that?
you repent well shannon.

j_dock2 12-20-2004 07:57 PM

Mr. Nunley.

What can I say? You are forgiven.

*makes several small purchases, has them all shipped via UPS, waits at door*

dfaber 12-20-2004 08:19 PM

Mr Tannenbaum the Talmudic scholar has a tragically pathological view of historic facts. I quote, "The so called ovens are a hoax as the germans had not even enough gas to fuel their vehicles and ultimately lost the war because of this..."
First, well, I have seen the ovens of Dachau with my own eyes.
Dachau was a little town nestled in the countryside in the 1930s, but it is a middle-class suburb of Munich now. You take a commuter train from Munich and get off at the Dachau stop. An ordinary transit bus will take you from the train past neat rows of plain apartments mixed in with a few beautifully kept medievel farmhouses and lets you out around the corner from the McDonalds and within a few yards from the infamous gates. "Arbeit Macht Frei" (Work Brings Freedom), the inscription in wrought iron chillingly welcomes you.
Most everyone's concept of the concentration camp is as some kind of intensely personal hell so you just are not prepared for the scale of the place. It is the first thing that shocks you, I mean, it is HUGE. You realize you didn't give yourself enough time, it will take over an hour just to walk the perimeter. The original barracks have all been torn down, only foundation stones remain of them, they stood in tatters even during their working tenure so it is not surprising. One new barracks building has been constructed as a lonely replica. The rest of the place is quite well preserved and looks about as it did in 1965 when they finally got around to making a memorial out of it. The ovens of the Krematorium are made of brick and set on stone floors. A few cracks in the walls and a hole in the roof, but they look eerily to be in almost working order. You stand in that room looking at them, peering into their open grates, and then you walk outside and try and think about what you have just seen. I can tell you it doesn't make you want to kick anybody's ass, but you realize how important it is to be strong. It doesn't make you hate the German people in whose most agreeable company you have spent the last few days, instead it makes you wary of any dogmatic ideology, any excess grouping of humans, vulnerable to descend to the level of the worst among them. The thing that saves you is to see a group of young local schoolchildren and their teacher, an ordinary fifth- or sixth-grade class. A stranger catches a look in your eye and begins a hushed translation of their on-site instruction for you, "according to the records kept by the Nazis, almost 32,000 inmates died in this camp and most of their bodies were cremated here." These young people frankly discussing the horrors their grandparents never acknowledged gives you back something that was sucked out of you when you entered this place. You have been given a glimpse of the terror which can rise up if we ignore the hatefulness and evil around us. The words on the side of the memorial tomb assume all of their frightening and awsome import, "Never again."
Second, ironically the Nazis did ultimately lose the war because of this. Hitler's (and Himmler's and Goering's) maniacal persecution of the "final solution" cost Germany the war. Gasoline was burned by the tankerful, soldiers and materiel were left in silos and encampments far from the front lines in order to keep in transit railroad trains with their human cargoes bound for the death camps of Poland. The tactically more astute German generals plotted to murder Hitler, not because they were in sympathy with the allies, but because he was a madman taking the glory of Germany into the ashes once again, this time because his craven anti-semitism destroyed all reason.
Go ahead and visit the anti-semitic web sites Chris Tannenbaum Geuting invites you to view. Read there about how the despicable Jews are conspiring against you in their secretive cabals of bankers and movie-makers. He is not making "Jew jokes" ladies and gentlemen, he is quite deadly serious. So am I. And I actually ride an R1100S.

Jim March 12-20-2004 08:33 PM

Thank you.

I haven't myself seen any of the camps, or been to Germany. I have however met elderly survivors.

bikerfish1100 12-21-2004 03:40 AM

i suspect that the nearest one could come to the scale of that experience without going to Europe might be had by visiting the Yad Vashem Memorial in D.C. I have not been there, but i have been to the one in Israel. it was a singularly chilling, haunting and disturbing experience. it was heart rending. and as dfaber stated, i was not filled with anger or feelings of revenge, only of great sadness, pain and an unwillingness to let anything like that happen again. never again.

roger albert 12-21-2004 05:23 AM

The camps are horrible if you visit. I've been to Dachau and the one (can't recall the name) over in the Jena / Weimar area in the old DDR/GRD area. Amazing and terrible.

But none of that belongs on this board, as most of us know.
I'm working the issue, and as such, am not immediately nuking this thread. It may be needed. However, it would be best if it was left to lie. No feedback really needed, or any more posts on the topic if you can possibly refrain.

thanks
roger

yetidave 12-21-2004 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris Geuting
ckcarr;Who gave you the right to determine who "serves a useful purpose on the board" and who gets terminated or not when the person doesn't serve that useful purpose anymore?Is your real name GOD by chance and you are just to humble to call yourself this way...What I really love about those discussions that you get to look deep down into the "souls" of some people and get to see who I would like to drink a beer with or ride and who don't...
The riding "fraternity" or biking "brotherhood" is mostly the same fake b.s. likke the society itself...
Bikerfish like I said I don't know what your problem is but if you can't even critizise the banking system and the atrocities that are committed in Israel without beeing called a nazi than it shows me that the "protocols" are everything but a forgery!
And I had an 1100S right from the beginning and rode it for 3 years after I bought a "lowly" 1150RS because the tank was bigger...
Terminate me especially since I am of no "useful purpose" for the 1100S crowd anymore...Euthanesia for RS-lowlifes on the S-Board;maybe we should have a poll...;-)
Next year on a S(T)1200 maybe...
Chris tmas spirit;gotta love it...


You are a ****ing mess of a human being Chris. Seek help.

dannyleo 12-21-2004 07:38 AM

Been to Dachau, very pristine and sanitized. Wanna see something closer to the real thing? Go to Oswiecem outside of Krakow, better known as Auswitz. Unbelievable. The Russians really did a good job of preserving everything from the children's clothes to the luggage and human hair in order to reflect on what the Nazis had done. Got a personal tour by the lady who was a daughter to the camp commandant when it was a Polish military camp before the Hess (not the one who escaped to Britain) took her house for his headquarters. Chilling, spooky, and definitely changed the way I looked at Germans, probably forever. I say that even though I lived in Germany almost 8 years and some there are practically like family to me. As I continue to travel the world though, it wasn't because they were Germans, I find that it was just the face that pure Evil happened to take at that time. Just as it is taking on different faces in Iraq, Sudan, and a hundred other places right now. One of the reasons I love riding. Gets me away from all of that and all I have to worry about is my skills and my equipment so that I can have an enjoyable ride and feel like I accomplished something.

Rapid Dog 12-21-2004 07:42 AM

well said dannyleo....let's get back on the subject then...

j_dock2 12-21-2004 11:14 AM

Do I win a prize for mostest hijacked thread evar?!?!?

ErricZ 12-21-2004 11:23 AM

And Fastest downhill run as well. :D


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