PCIII redux...eval content - Page 2

Rapid Dog · 05-23-2006, 07:30 AM

...hmmm...breathed on by the boss, nice...so he balanced the top end? sweet.

Steve Carlton · 05-23-2006, 07:35 AM

Yepper. Since BMW was picking up the tab for the rings, he suggested some "while we're in theres." Cost was very reasonable, and it's a crap shoot how out of balance things are from the factory. He balanced the rods and pistons. In my case, the rods weighed exactly the same, but were different big-end to big-end and small-end to small-end.

repoe3 · 05-23-2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by acidburn
oh i almost forgot, i just ordered one.
Hopefully i can get it in soon and get Don over at Modesto Duc to do a nice dyno run and map.
Dynamic mapping?
The high end DynoJet set up , that is what we want, yes?

a dyno run is not needed for the most part...look at this image. see the grey area? that part is controlled directly by the new O2 sensor and the ration set via F6 that you want (13.8:1 is default). its only at 80-100% throttle that you would map anything. so dont get sucked into paying some ridiculous amount to "map" such a small area of throttle position.

repoe3

repoe3 · 05-23-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by flatbutt
gotta website for info and pricing?

www.dyno-solutions.com john took care of me...i posted the info...listen up people!!!!

and he is near you so you would get it quickly.

repoe3

repoe3 · 05-23-2006, 08:27 AM

steve,

why dont you send me your map so i can compare how it looks versus a few others i have? i mean, there is only so much info there...how about just listing the cell values for the 80 and 100 throttle columns. thats all anyone would be interested in anyways.

repoe3

JonyRR · 05-23-2006, 08:42 AM

Acid;
When they cut you a map I'd be interested in seeing that one.
Also, stevee baybee, your map is probably very interesting to do a comparo with as well...

'so boys, whatcha looking at, all huddled around that laptop...internet porn?....
naw, way better'n nekkid wimmen, it's a nekkid PowerCommander fuel map' *grin*

gigantic · gigantic's Garage

Quote:

Originally posted by repoe3
www.dyno-solutions.com john took care of me...i posted the info...listen up people!!!!

and he is near you so you would get it quickly.

repoe3

+1 on the dyno solutions as well. I feel he took very good care of me. he posts here as "airfuel"
great guy. I'd buy more from him if i could.

roger albert · 05-23-2006, 09:15 AM

But you CAN buy more from him.
Just send any unneeded duplicates to Austin

gigantic · gigantic's Garage

i've got a gixxer to fix, first. stay tuned.
Lance

Steve Carlton · 05-23-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by repoe3
steve,

why dont you send me your map so i can compare how it looks versus a few others i have? i mean, there is only so much info there...how about just listing the cell values for the 80 and 100 throttle columns. thats all anyone would be interested in anyways.

repoe3

Don't have the map, and I'd have to download the PC software and figure out how to hook up my laptop to pull it off the PC. It's one of SJBMW's maps.

SJBMW developed the maps with Dynojet for the wideband PCIII at his shop. I would think they would be the latest version of all that he developed. The exhaust version was actually done on a bike with a Remus, but Chris says all the exhausts are essentially the same anyway. My bike has the stock exhaust, BTW.

repoe3 · 05-23-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Steve Carlton
Don't have the map, and I'd have to download the PC software and figure out how to hook up my laptop to pull it off the PC. It's one of SJBMW's maps.

SJBMW developed the maps with Dynojet for the wideband PCIII at his shop. I would think they would be the latest version of all that he developed. The exhaust version was actually done on a bike with a Remus, but Chris says all the exhausts are essentially the same anyway. My bike has the stock exhaust, BTW.

its not THAT hard to hook up a laptop via a USB cable to the thing and say hi to it. but, ok.

gigantic, get well man...that sucks. if you happen to have access to your map, i would be interested in looking at it.

repoe3

JonyRR · 05-23-2006, 11:48 AM

steve, does your PCIII have a USB port? I thought the SJBMW-specific ones were serial-port-connected? The SJ-flavor PCIII uses a wideband 02 sensor?

Steve Carlton · 05-23-2006, 03:24 PM

Mine's the pre-BMW specific PC, one adapted from a Triumph application. The map would also print out with the rpms showing double the actual rpms. I've never hooked up my laptop to it, either.

JonyRR · 05-23-2006, 03:28 PM

how do you talk to that one? does it have a serial or USB port? Gotta be some kind of connection to be able to upload a map to it....

Steve Carlton · 05-23-2006, 03:40 PM

Never talked to it. But I could. If I wanted to. We just go our separate ways...

If you really want to know if it's USB or serial, I could find out. That unit has no wideband O2 sensor.

JonyRR · 05-23-2006, 03:48 PM

I din't think ANY PCIII had a wideband 02 sensor ecxept the BMW variant. Dynojet says it's thier most advanced unit to date, 'cordin to the guy I spoke with when I ordered my AF meter; he specifically made me state it was for a bmw 'because the BMW PCIII is the only one with a wideband 02 sensor or the hookup for an AF meter'.
I'm just trying to squirrel your map outta you, but then you DID know that, didn't ya? A little 'social engineering'...coupla shots of don Pedro tquila for a peek up your map's skirt *grin*.....

Steve Carlton · 05-23-2006, 04:14 PM

Jony, if you really want my map, I'll get it for you. I would think you'd want to put in the wideband unit, and then just fiddle with the 80-100% throttle mapping. My bike has no intake and exhaust mods, and I believe yours would do Dr. Frankenstein proud. If you for some reason want a PC without the wideband, I'll sell you mine and replace it with the newer unit...

JonyRR · 05-23-2006, 04:22 PM

I DO have a wideband unit; what I wanted to compare were the numbers off the 02 sensor control regeime.
Contrary to popular belief, you CAN and MIGHT want to mod a wideband PCIII map for the times the 02 sensor is NOT running the show, like right at cold startup; the 02 sensor, heated or not, does take some time to get up to temp and one can readily see and hear that when a cold start is initiated.
as for the frankenstein part, why, I'll take that as a compliment.....and yes, I HAVE 'tuned it to a standstill' before. If you never break anything you never learn where the limits are, eh?

Steve Carlton · 05-23-2006, 05:10 PM

No balls, no babies.

I'll try to pull out the map. Be interesting to see what formula Elke's been sipping...