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geothepencil 02-17-2007 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by throttlemeister
Still 300% increase, aka someone got very richt out of that.
Yes indeed it did go up and is now near its 52 week high. Perhaps those who bought in at over a dollar in 05 are encouraged. Penny stocks have their own type of persona and disclosure availability and I am pointing out that this is a penny stock. I hope it continues to do well.

geo

Seeker 02-17-2007 02:46 PM

Re: If you don't read any other post this year...PLEASE read this one!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bradzdotcom
if this post encourages just one of you to belly up and get one...then it will be worth it....brad
Good post and thought-provoking video.
Makes you wonder why this hasn't been looked into way before this. I first read about the Leatt brace several years ago, it seems. Thought it was the logical thing then and even more now.


Bruno
Montreal, Canada
http://pages.videotron.com/mcrides

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Steve Carlton 02-17-2007 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by John Lyon
Brad,

Where were you a week ago? The LEAT stock went from under 15 to 45 in the past week, apparently due to the David Bailey publicity (and huge number of orders).

Well, I'm sitting pretty with my 1,000 shares. I may cash in and buy that R1200S!

Orphan 02-17-2007 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve Carlton
Well, I'm sitting pretty with my 1,000 shares. I may cash in and buy that R1200S!


Don't forget the promise you made to Elke!!!!!



From this thread.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/bmw-r1100s-r1200s-tech-forum/291810-fantastic-discovery-about-july-4th-ride-report.html


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Steve Carlton
[B]

We were having a nice time relaxing and chatting. Then Elke kind of surprised me when she said "Dad, I know there might be a little brother joining the family someday. Am I staying, or are you going to get rid of me like ckcarr did? That would make me very, very sad." I told her she's my original girl, and she'll always have a home with me...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1152080325.jpg

Steve Carlton 02-17-2007 06:44 PM

Uh oh.

John Lyon 02-17-2007 10:47 PM

One other little minor glitch, Steve. I failed to mention those prices are in cents, not dollars. Maybe you can buy a new tire for Elke.

Steve Carlton 02-18-2007 05:40 AM

Oh well. Seemed too good to be true for a $150 investment. :cool:

bradzdotcom 02-18-2007 06:42 AM

report from san diego supercross race:

about a dozen of the pro riders were wearing the leatt brace last night. many more had tried it in practice during the week and will be showing up with it in the next couple of weeks.

josh grant was the first to put it on the podium (won his heat race in the Lites division).
kevin windham was the first to put it on the main event podium (finished third in the Supercross class).

a quick poll of the riders shows that at least half of them will be wearing the leatt brace by the end of the season in september.

the leatt guys were there, didn't have a chance to talk to them...they were kind of "busy".

John Lyon 02-18-2007 01:40 PM

Brad,

As I mentioned above, I've gone ahead and ordered one, but I'm just wondering what the statistics are for these types of injuries on the street (vs racing)?

JonyRR 02-18-2007 02:28 PM

I think the offshore boat racers need to see this. they use horse collars but this seems to be better. A boat can spank your body just as badly as a quad chasing you down and stomping you after an endo.

bradzdotcom 02-18-2007 03:37 PM

john~

were you on our ride when Gerhard got hurt?

think about the roads we ride the most. when you make a BIG mistake, where do you go?

off-road.

think about the #1 fatality of motorcycle riders: somebody making a left hand turn in your face. in my opinion, that's a whole lot like the pro supercross/motocross guys experience.
they come up "short", they slam their head into the face of the next uphill section. their head goes either WAY too far back or WAY too far forward.
snap.
wheelchair.

one of the main things the leatt brace does is to help restrict your head from going too far forward, or too far back. and too far to the left or right.
that's the whole idea.

when gerhard went into that icy corner, he ended up in the dirt, and (from what i saw), stuffed his head into the hillside.
i don't know if he suffered from too far forward or too far back. or maybe he drilled himself (augered in).

unfortunately, i've had a few people confront me after Gerhard's incident and say things like "dude...of all the folks there, you seemed to be the least effected....the calmest...like it was no big deal."

they're probably right. i've seen, over the past 35 years, way too many friends suffer this kind of injury.

is the leatt brace the fix-all, end-all? probably not.
does it help lower the odds of experiencing that kind of injury? so far, it looks like it.

one of the things i noticed yesterday at the race is that i'm getting really tired of seeing long-time friends of mine who i walk up to, knowing i can't shake their hand.

i have to grab their hand, or scoot down and give them a hug...because their hands are curled up, and they don't have that kind of motor skills anymore.

case in point: james marshall, who fell off a year ago, at the san diego event, stopped and talked with us. steve giberson, who shot the david bailey video, was with me when we "walked" up to james.

one of the things he said was: "Thanks for doing what you're doing. the leatt was around before i fell off. i wish now that i'd of gotten one. it might have helped...it might not...but i'll never know."

billy bledsoe 02-18-2007 03:52 PM

Ordered one today.

First I'll see how it works riding the dirt bike with chest protector. Looks like it should integrate pretty well based on the pictures I've seen.

Hopefully it will fit with my street riding jackets. I'm hoping I can wear it under the jackets? We'll see

thanks Brad.

gigantic 02-18-2007 03:57 PM

wow. I'm in for one, too. coulda saved be a bit o trouble last may with my clavicle...

Steve Carlton 02-18-2007 04:01 PM

Now I need a dirtbike. Thanks, Brad...

bradzdotcom 02-18-2007 04:36 PM

billy~
most of your questions are answered at: http://www.leatt-brace.com/pdf/gpx_instruction_manual.pdf


some (not all) chest protectors need to be modified to fit the brace.

so do some street leathers.

in my case, i have a 1-piece track suit with a spine protection hump in the back. i will cut a slit in the hump to put the rear part of the leatt brace into it.
http://www.bradzimmerman.com/hump.jpg

not an issue. i called around and easily found a tailor who will sew a "leather jacket", and i'm good to go. i can cut the slit. i just want her to hem it up so it doesn't unravel.

i also have a regular riding jacket for the street. from what i've seen, the leatt will easily fit inside the jacket.

i have a lot of friends (US, England, South Africa) that i've kept in touch with over the past week.

most of 'em have voluntarily "grounded" themselves until they get their brace. they won't ride again until they have it.

i'm of the same line of thinking. i'll let my bmw trickle charge. i'll start my supermoto bike to keep the battery charged.

but i won't ride until i have my leatt.
and i don't plan on ever riding again without it.

interesting side-bar: there was a kid in my neighborhood who was a skateboard nut. i jumped his butt about not wearing a helmet. his attitude was "so what, no big deal". i challenged him to run as fast as he could (slower than a skateboard), and stuff his head into the nearby light pole. he declined.
i also offered him a $1,000 bounty if he ever saw me ride one of my motorcycles without a helmet.
he took me up on that one...most times when i fired up a bike, he was out there watching.

he never collected.
never will.

i feel the same way about the leatt. might help. might not.

but i'm not willing to go ride and find out.

i really don't want to be one of those guys you have to bend down and hug.

they now make "spinners" for wheelchairs.

the cost? about $600+
here's a foto from last night's race:

http://www.vitalmx.com/photo/albums/..._031sdprac.jpg

Seeker 02-18-2007 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bradzdotcom
they come up "short", they slam their head into the face of the next uphill section. their head goes either WAY too far back or WAY too far forward. snap. wheelchair.
There's no doubt that a good neck brace can help minimize injury. And I'm surprised this hasn't become an accepted and common piece of gear by now.

But being wheelchair-bound is one thing. Having a fractured neck is another.

Without causing undue fear in people, how many riders suffer fractured cervical vertebrae? That would leave them like Chris Reeves, often unable to breathe on their own.

If they are wheelchair-bound pushing themselves around, a cervical neck brace would not have helped.

For example, a cervical brace would not have helped Chris Bailey (video).

Bruno
Montreal, Canada
http://pages.videotron.com/mcrides

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John Lyon 02-18-2007 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Seeker
If they are wheelchair-bound pushing themselves around, a cervical neck brace would not have helped.
Meaning that the injury was lower on the spine? So for injuries lower on the spine (below the neck), are we talking back protectors or is it extreme motion that causes these injuries as well? (I'm guessing you're a doctor.)

repoe3 02-19-2007 02:57 AM

you dont have to be a doctor to know something of the injuries and their results. all you have to know is someone that has had similar injuries or experienced injuries yourself and spent time with a sports medicine doctor that schools you on injury and recovery, as well as, prevention.
you learn a lot about the body when you start to break things...and you dont have to be a doctor to retain the knowledge.

i am aware a few people who have broken their back on track days and are still upright, some even still riding. and the point seeker made is accurate. a neck brace will aid in protection against injuries that would result in neck-down paralysis...back protectors aid in protection in further-down paralysis. neither prevents it completely.

repoe3

BMW Atlanta 02-19-2007 05:13 AM

i can't find this product anywhere at the Dealer Expo in Indianapolis. Not usually a wise move to miss this trade show with a new revolutionary type motorcycle product.

bradzdotcom 02-19-2007 06:38 AM

bobby~

the US crew, based out of Lost Wages, was at the san diego supercross this weekend fitting riders with braces, rather than at the indy show.

maybe they're following the usual route of selling direct before establishing a dealer network? i know that some dealers have applied to carry the braces, but only in the last week or so.
plus, the whole thing, over the past couple of weeks, has pretty much overwhelmed leatt in response to orders. they're back-ordered on the carbon fiber version and just added three phone lines and staff to keep up with demand. they say that, other than the CF version, they have enough product to keep up with demand.


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