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Wow: Self-Canceling Turn Signals

Just about when I resigned myself that the HP2S ain't ever gonna be a touring bike, nor should it be, voila, I discover self-canceling turn signals.

What a surprise. The algorithm and mathematics in trying to determine when self-canceling turn signals on a BMW actually cancel is a complex formula that depends upon time, distance, Coriolis effect, and sunspot activity. So, I've just programmed myself to cancel turn signals myself. Hey, I'm responsible, why not.

Yikes, discovered the Sport actually has self-canceling turn signals. What a disappointment. What next, OEM panniers, back rests, top case, ESA II, TPM, ASC, cruise control?

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Old 12-31-2008, 04:40 AM
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Next? that K1300x 09 series (one button turn signals like the ones found in 100M bikes around us)
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Hey Peter, one button cheaper (ooooops, less expensive) than two. And how about the pee bottle fluid reservoirs, rather than the neat ones on the '08's, back.
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I discover self-canceling turn signals.
...it also has a side stand...
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...it also has a side stand...
My steel trap powers of observation discovered that on day two of ownership.
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My steel trap powers of observation discovered that on day two of ownership.
...must have been your lucky day...
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...must have been your lucky day...
Lucky Day has new meaning at 68 years old and doesn't include sidestands!
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Well gentlemen

Jokes apart and having owned 5 beemers in 20 years....I confess that I never got that 3 button turn signal thing (actually...erm...I hate it, but I ride other - "normal"- bikes as well).

The good news are that most people think that's a good thing.
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Well gentlemen

Jokes apart and having owned 5 beemers in 20 years....I confess that I never got that 3 button turn signal thing (actually...erm...I hate it, but I ride other - "normal"- bikes as well).

The good news are that most people think that's a good thing.
Vive la difference Peter, no sarcasm intended. I am so used to them that anything else seems alien. But then again, that's the beauty (and downside) of muscle memory! And seems contradictory to the German philosophy as pointed out (with great drama by my buddy). The Germans have few switches that do many things while the Japanese have a switch for everything.
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I miss the turn signal switch on my '78 R80/7 although it took a little while to get used to as well. I believe it was up for right and down for left. I thought this thing had become standardized when everything I had ridden from my '82 R100 to my 2000 CBR has left for left - right for right - push to cancel on the left pod. Then came the R1100. I really think it makes sense for right on right/left on left.....if I only had one bike. Just like when my CBR arrived to me with GP shifting. It made sense but not with multiple bikes.
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I use hand signals, John. They are always self_canceling. Lol don't ask whether or not they're digital or analog.
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I use hand signals, John. They are always self_canceling. Lol don't ask whether or not they're digital or analog.
You in the Keys yet Bubba? My worry with hand signals, and I often use hand signals PLUS bike turn signals is that the idiots driving today don't know them. Uhhh, left forearm, extended up... duhhh, WTF does that mean?
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Of course DIGITAL Bubba, your fingers are called digits, right, therefore . . .
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often wondered how they get away with all of that blinker placement/operation nonsense.

i thought all the hand controls were standardized years ago, and maybe the unique bmw system of blinker and horn placement was somehow grandfathered in.

does anybody know?

(not losing sleep over this, since i don't use the blinkers anyway, and like nail, use hand controls, but only on group rides. if ya ask me, blinkers indicate the possibility of bad things happening.)
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here in jersey the use of blinkers is anti-thetical to survival. cagers use them as targeting devices/homing signals.
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here in jersey the use of blinkers is anti-thetical to survival. cagers use them as targeting devices/homing signals.
OT: I was chuckling at your username. I am blessed with the same physical disability, but here's the upside. I'm 5' 8" with a 30+ inseam and I can ride all BMW cycles cuz a flat butt helps in getting your feet to the ground on some of these tallish beasts! E.g. GS Adventure
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Don't know about later models, but the Kissan Signal Minder has all the human factors about right for the R1100S and saves your thumb.
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The Germans have few switches that do many things while the Japanese have a switch for everything.
Hmmm...have you ever been in a 7 series limo? (without a 600page manual).

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My R12S has self-canceling turn signals.

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