R1100S Center Stand Handle/Raised Handle Mounting Question
 

Hi All,
My bike didn't have the side cases hardware when I bought it so with the kind help of some board members I bought a set of system cases and the complete mounting kit.
However, I couldn't figure out away to remount the 'raised handle' (as shown below) so I can easily put my bike on its center stand. I haven't looked at any other bike to see but I believe the 'raised handle' should be able to fit with the system case mounting hardware, correct?
Some pictures of how your 'raised handle' is mounted with your system case mounting racks would help. I have a Two Brothers Cat eliminator and have a real hard time mounting the heat deflector anyway. I can only mount it with one bolt not the two it has.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Robert

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1246883840.jpg

I've never seen that before. Sure would like to have one myself.

It is the handle you use to put your bike on its center stand. Using the system case rack turns my hand the wrong way, at least for me it is the wrong way, and I can't get a good grip.

I don't think that can be mounted along with the case holders. Not 100% sure, but I think it's an either or setup. I remember another S rider having something like that but didn't have bags. I looked at adding this but after looking at his couldn't see a way to mount both.

the pic looks OEM, is it?

I think you're right but I have to ask. I could not see away to mount the riser handle, but I haven't looked at any other bikes to be sure. I hope we're both wrong, because I need that handle to put mine on the center stand, weak and arthritis.

Yes, it is an OEM part.

I have the original installation instructions for the saddle bag retro fit kit. I'm pretty sure it says you must remove the handle. I'll check on it this weekend when I get a chance. I miss the fold out handle on my old K100. Now that was cool.

Hi Robert,

I also believe that it is either/or, you can't have you handle and bag rail together.

But you can cup your hand under the side of the bag rail and lift gently whilst using your leg to press firmly down on the centre stand pedal. This will easily raise the bike onto the stand, you do not need to use much lifting pressure at all.

I did miss the lifting handle initially after I installed my bag rails but it just requires
a slightly different technique.

Cheers,

Frank

Thanks that would be a great help. I just can't get a 'good angle' to put my bike on the center stand using the system case rack.
Please email me offline if you can captrehkopfatcomcastdotnet
Thanks, Thanks, Thanks,

Frank,
I understand but my hand just doesn't fit too well underneath the system case rack, bad angle for me I guess. I know to push down with your foot but I can't get enough fingers underneath the rack to control the bike and pull up. Just me and my hand. I appreciate the advice and help.
Robert

Does anyone know if the Wunderlich folding handle will fit the subframe tubing of the 1100S ?

More info please on what a Wunderlich folding handle is?

Tell me more about this. Any pictures or part number? Is it in the BMW micro fiche? What year K100?

The Wuderlich handle comes in black or silver. It might work on the sub-frame.

http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=WA&Product_Cod e=8160457&Category_Code=

The old K100 had fold out handle with a boss welded to the frame. It had a contoured plastic handle that worked great!

BMW PN 46711451964

I believe you've solved my problem. The Wunderlich handle will definitely work although expensive as always. I will check out the BMW Part also. Now I have a way to do what I need. But the question still remains: can the OEM R1100S handle be installed WITH the case rack?

I can't figure out how the OEM part worked? Where did it attach and how was it put out of the way?

It's been a while since I looked at a K100. As I recall the handle screwed to a boss welded to the frame just forward of the saddle bag. It was spring loaded in the folded position (basically vertical). You just rotated it up and out and it stopped at about 90*. When you let go it snapped back to it's stowed position next to the frame rail. I was quite disappointed to find that BMW had done away with it on the K1100.

I suspect you'd have to drill a hole in the sub-frame and weld in a boss of some kind to retro fit one to the 1100S. Maybe cut one from a wrecked K100 frame. A good winter project perhaps.

I don't know whether the Wunderlich handle will fit the sub-frame tube on the S but it seems like the easier option. You may have to change the radius of the clamps. If it were cheaper I'd take the chance. At $99 plus, I don't know.

If I get a chance I'll see if I can post a photo of my K100 showing the handle this weekend.

My 1100S came with the bag mounts already on it. I don't even have the original handle to play with (I do have the heat shield though).

I have emailed Wunderlich America and ask if the handle bar fits a R1100S. I have the same concerns as you about wasting $100 on something that doesn't fit properly. I'll let the Board know what I hear back. The handle is not listed as a Wunderlich part that fits the R1100S!
I appreciate the help and let me know if you can get both heat shield bolts to bolt.

Bad News! From Wunderlich:(

Hello and thank you very much for your inquiry.
Part number 8160457 does not fit the R1100 S nor do we have a similar part to fit the S. Sorry about that.
Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.

Best regards,
William Plam

The other option is install Ohlins or sport shocks and the bike rolls right unto the center stand with almost no lifting effort . I always grab the rear louvers as leverage.

Hi,
Thanks for the reply but what rear louvers? All I can grab is the system case rack and my hand won't fit. Am I missing something?

Right behind the seat, the plastic where the seat lock is located. I believe they call it the Luggage Grid. It has 2 large openings, I just grab the left side & use it as a handle.

Thanks but that won't work for me with my tail trunk. There has got to be a handle similar to the Wunderlich set up that will work. I am also confused as to why BMW calls the Luggage Grid a Luggage Grid when there is not any luggage for it?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1247159455.jpg

I agree, even a small rack would give anchoring to carry something, but there's a muffler really close. Wouldn't want to end up like this!:eek:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1247167490.jpg

Center Stand Handle Riser Solution
 

Hi all,
There is a simple solution to the replacement of the center stand handle riser for those bikes that have the system case hardware. Look below. All that is needed is a simple handle that will attach to the two bolts that the white arrows are pointing to. Actually it will slip in between the passenager foot hardware and the system case hardware. The handle riser will need a little offset to clear the system case bar, probably 1/4 inch.
What does the group think?




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I believe the guard behind the footpeg mount is upside down. It should be above to keep the pipe covered. I replaced mine with a carbon piece & noticed less heat on my leg. As for the handle it should work fine there. Perhaps a couple tabs fabricated to hold it off the bags.

Hi,
Thanks for the guard advice. I didn't know where it went the PO didn't have the passenger peg or case rack on the bike. I had to buy the system cases and all mounting hardware.
The system cases are far enough away from this area that you don't have to worry about them getting in the way.

i always thought the use of a separate handle bar to get the R11S on it's centerstand was unnecessary. just grab the left grip, stomp firmly on the foot peg and she will roll back and up pretty easily. i am on a 99. system cases and all.

BTW - the case mounts are fine if you need to get a hold - just rotate your wrist and face front - pretty comfy that way.

just my 2c.

Would it make much difference with stock shocks if the spring preload is cranked to max? I'm sort of a big fella, so usually have the preload set pretty high. I do NO hand lifting on the case mounts or anywhere else, only steady the left grip and step most of my (considerable !) weight on the centerstand lever. Goes on to the stand very easily...

Learned to put the weight on the centerstand lever with GS850/1000G's back in the day...those beasts were somewhat heavy. LOL

Also....seems the shorter paralever arm might be helpful too....

For sure factory side case holder instructions call for removal of the handle ... as well as the heat shield fitted behind it.

As noted elsewhere, it's all about foot pressure on the centerstand and NOT about lifting at this location. Hold on to the case holder just to keep things balanced. You could grab it with just two fingers, i.e. thumb and index and you'd be fine.

I've never seen a handle like this for the R1100S. It looks like something from an RT. The 'S easily pops up on it's center stand using the rear rub frame as a grabbing point.

-Jeff