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Which Rapid bike for the HP2 Sport?
It's very hard to find the correct one in listings. Dimsport says to use the KRB3052 which fits ANY HP2 but not the R1200S but I suspect the KRB3051 for the R1200S would be just as good or better for this application.
Does anyone actually have the RB3 for their HP2S? If so which one is it?
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Joe, the way you ask your question makes me think you might not have a tuner nearby, or else they would be able to tell you the one you need. As far as I know, without a gifted tuner, these things are WORTHLESS
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I was not aware that RB had made one for the DOHC, Joe. Since all other HP2's are hexheads and don't develop the same hp as the 12S to my knowledge, I'm going to have to reserach this one. You've got me wondering.
 Yeah, the Megamoto has 110hp. We know there is an FRK for the sport; but, looking at the HP2 on the chart I think it's talking Hexhead. Last edited by Guest24; 09-17-2009 at 03:49 AM.. |
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No tuners with RB experience in Sweden but I don't see what could be so hard about adding/subtracting the right amount of fuel at a given RPM and TP. Of cource it'll take more time since the tuner isn't used to the RB software.
Cam config or power has nothing to do with what fits. The injectors and engine management system SHOULD be the same on the HP2 as on the hexheads. I'm sure I've seen a HP2 special with RB3 somewhere and there is http://www.rapidbikeusa.com/uncategorized/rapid-bike-bmw-hp2-sport-performance-header-collector-kit/
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I think the kit with the headers is the plug and play FRK. Nope, you are right. I see the usb computer tuning program and it looks lik it has a cd-rom to program the black box. It has two map capability. Got dyno time- you could prolly learn to do it .
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I could go for a Power commander (even though the RB is supposed to be slightly better) but Dynojet lists it as "coming soon" and in their world that could be anytime between tomorrow and five years. I'll drop them a line to see what they have to say.
Dyno time shouldn't be too expensive, "my" tuner will let me fiddle about with the bike and software in the dyno room while he works on other bikes and only help me when I need it. Room can be rented by the day and he by the hour. Really good guy!
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I'm driving with a Rapidbike I ... from 1000km !!! It has a customized mapping from an other HP2 with the same hardware set-up (full ti Akrapovic) only that bike did his run and tune-up on the dyno with zero km It put out 133 HP and 133 Nm (got the run on paper) and nowadays a little bit more  I do have to put it on the dyno because I want the fine-tuning to be spot on If you want some advise why don't you e-mail http://www.tovami.com It's a Dutch tuner, but he can advise you what to buy ect. Or els my dealer http://www.vanharten.nl form this one http://www.hartenjager.com and yes they can read English
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I would prefer a RB3 if possible. Is it tucked away inside the fairings or could you find the part number for me?
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The Rapidbike I is sufficient to do the works ! Why the Rapidbike III ... the ignition don't need fiddling and the quickshifter does his job anyway ... and you don't find more rev's (power) It's tucked away under the seat, were the butterfly unit once had a place, can't read the part number there's some sticky foam on it  Found a picture, hope you can read it ... check your mail
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Why is it our European counterparts write HP2 instead of HP2S? Did BMW change the name of the HP2S because here in the States the HP2 is a completely different motorcycle...
HP2 
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I never really figured out the 2 thingy anyhow. My title reads R12HPS.
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HP2=High Performance 2 (cylinder)
Of that there is the Megamoto, the Sport and the Enduro... three variants. At least here in the States that's what BMW offered up in their HP2 line.
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I know there are three ...
HP2 S HP2 E HP2 MM What's the problem to call the HP2 S ... for short HP, every one know this usually because we only talk about the HP2 S
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Yep ... there you got a point !
Not everybody calls the HP2S ... HP 
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Ok Now...
Greetings,
The Rapid Bike #3 for the HP-2 Sport is a limited item at this point. We have created an application for DimSport/RapidBike with a special o2 Processor - Modulator so the Rapid Bike will work on the HP-2 Sport. It is the only way it will work on the HP-2 Sport to allow for Ignition and Timing modifications. You must use the OEM o2 sensors with the RB #3. Otherwise you have to use the RB#1 which allows for Injection modification alone. This is good but MORE power is gained with ignition timing modifications on this bike! I echo shreddrs point empirically! The Rapid Bike system needs a QUALIFIED tuner to make it work and work well. Otherwise you will suffer $$$ dyno time - I can say this with certainty. This HP-2 Sport Rapid Bike #3 Kit is $683.00 EUROs - $1025.00 USD - Without dyno time. Hope this helps!
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RF, i guess this is why I haven;t seen much on the RBIII for the HPS.
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Is HPS shorthand for HP1S?? In other words... is that an HP2S that runs on one cylinder?
 (Pssst... Jeff's probably was running on 1 cylinder)
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He went through a lot! It is a pity the time the agony and the final -$ettlement. He was another UNPAID BMW beta tester! He is not alone though. ----------- ------ These "Take backs" go to auction - NO WARRANTY - wind up at dealers - BMW gets to sell more fix-it part$ and labor. Now a new Jeff will soon own that bike. How is that for a BMW karmic circle? Oh the other MFGs do it also! Have you heard of the "Poland Connection"? First one that answers correctly can have a BAD BMW BMS-K ECU Paperweight - I have plenty here! 
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