Phillip Island 1st Day Test Times

Chris Canning · 02-21-2010, 01:57 AM

Phillip Island Official Test - Superbike 2nd Session

Guest24 · 02-21-2010, 04:22 AM

SBK has completely sold out to TV. No season pass option like MotoGP. Tell me who the champion is after the season is over. They don't want fans, all they want is TV $$$'s and races cut up by commercials. I'll stick to my season pass to MotoGP. Just another year of testing for BM.

peter f · 02-21-2010, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nail24

SBK has completely sold out to TV.

Chris Canning · 02-21-2010, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nail24

SBK has completely sold out to TV. No season pass option like MotoGP. Tell me who the champion is after the season is over. They don't want fans, all they want is TV $$$'s and races cut up by commercials. I'll stick to my season pass to MotoGP. Just another year of testing for BM.

That may be new for you,but paying to watch has been the norm for years,as for wanting fans,the organisers see two options,you either go in person and pay to get in,or pay to watch,it's called a business,and this year they are on a roll,who's going to win?? perm anyone from 10,Moto GP?? Pedrosa isn't good enough,Lorenzo has a busted hand,so it's already down to a 2 horse race,and the flammini's know it

signit98 · 02-21-2010, 07:51 AM

Chris, there might be one or two "surprise" horsees in the race... maybe not to win it all, but most certainly to mix things up a little here and there.

We'll see...

Bubba, sometimes you remind me of a little boy who didn't get to have dessert... how do you think they finance large parts of that circus nowadays? And, what exactly is the difference in wanting $$$ from you while watching on the internet or while watching on TV? You pay either way... even for your all beloved MotoGP Pass...

Sofatester · Sofatester's Garage

overall timing after both practice sessions:

1. Carlos Checa (E/Ducati) 1.31,959 min.
2. Michel Fabrizio (I/Ducati) 1.32,349
3. Leon Haslam (GB/Suzuki) 1.32,484
4. Noriyuki Haga (J/Ducati) 1.32,518
5. Jonathan Rea (GB/Honda) 1.32,544
6. Shane Byrne (GB/Ducati) 1.32,671
7. Max Neukirchner (D/Honda) 1.32,735
8. Max Biaggi (I/Aprilia) 1.32,832
9. Jakub Smrz (CZ/Ducati) 1.32,912
10. Lorenzo Lanzi (I/Ducati) 1.32,979
11. James Toseland (GB/Yamaha) 1.33,135
12. Sylvain Guintoli (F/Suzuki) 1.33,190
13. Tom Sykes (GB/Kawasaki) 1.33,222
14. Troy Corser (AUS/BMW) 1.33,299
15. Cal Crutchlow (GB/Yamaha) 1.33,444
16. Ruben Xaus (E/BMW) 1.33,498
17. Chris Vermeulen (AUS/Kawasaki) 1.33,648
18. Andrew Pitt (AUS/BMW) 1.33,699
19. Joshua Brookes (AUS/Honda) 1.33,710
20. Leon Camier (GB/Aprilia) 1.33,852
21. Roland Resch (A/BMW) 1.34,361
22. Vittorio Iannuzzo (I/Honda) 1.35,260
23. Matteo Baiocco (I/Kawasaki) 1.36,087
24. Roger Hayden (USA/Kawasaki) 1.36,155

Guest24 · 02-21-2010, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Canning

That may be new for you,but paying to watch has been the norm for years,as for wanting fans,the organisers see two options,you either go in person and pay to get in,or pay to watch,it's called a business,and this year they are on a roll,who's going to win?? perm anyone from 10,Moto GP?? Pedrosa isn't good enough,Lorenzo has a busted hand,so it's already down to a 2 horse race,and the flammini's know it

I've enjoyed my Hi Def season pass to MotoGP for a while now. I was hoping SBK would wake up to their race fans and do the same.

Guest24 · 02-21-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by signit98

Chris, there might be one or two "surprise" horsees in the race... maybe not to win it all, but most certainly to mix things up a little here and there.

We'll see...

Bubba, sometimes you remind me of a little boy who didn't get to have dessert... how do you think they finance large parts of that circus nowadays? And, what exactly is the difference in wanting $$$ from you while watching on the internet or while watching on TV? You pay either way... even for your all beloved MotoGP Pass...

That's BS, Ralf. MotoGP sells season passes. Are you telling me SBK can't do pay pre view also. It's much more fun to watch without the dumb commercials.

signit98 · 02-21-2010, 10:50 AM

The dumb commercials are what enables most people to watch it to begin with... as unfortunate as it may seem to you. Neither MotoGP nor WSBK would be able to continue their existence without TV money...

WSBK just had more of a need to sell out completely... it's the name of the game. It's not like the olden days when you were watching one channel on your black and white hand crank TV set, Bubba...

branners · 02-22-2010, 12:55 AM

Mickey Fab fastest on Day 2, Haslam the fastest of the fours, Corser 12th and the Kawas as slow as rust. Still, looking like a great weekend.

OwenM · 02-22-2010, 01:33 AM

It’s a bit of a worry when a super powerful “high tech” I4 is 1.2 seconds slower around a fast circuit like Phillip Island than a V twin. What hope does a mere mortal have of getting better performance on the road where top end HP is of no importance.

throttlemeister · throttlemeister's Garage

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Originally Posted by Nail24

SBK has completely sold out to TV. No season pass option like MotoGP. Tell me who the champion is after the season is over. They don't want fans, all they want is TV $$$'s and races cut up by commercials. I'll stick to my season pass to MotoGP. Just another year of testing for BM.

Who cares anyway. The US is probably the only place where you have to pay for the service AND the program anyway. I'll just enjoy both. For free. As it should be.

Guest24 · 02-22-2010, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OwenM

It’s a bit of a worry when a super powerful “high tech” I4 is 1.2 seconds slower around a fast circuit like Phillip Island than a V twin. What hope does a mere mortal have of getting better performance on the road where top end HP is of no importance.

This comment makes me think about top fuel drag racing, Owen. They have never been short on hp; but, the transmission of all that hp to rear wheel and how it interacts with the track surface is the real problem. That was the problem the S1000RR had during its 2009 intro to SBK.

roger albert · 02-22-2010, 07:53 AM

Man, it is strange to see the great-package, but not-peak-power-Ducs basically shutting out all other comers on the 2nd day. Looks like a Ducati year. They've sure found something, and the customer ducs look to be just as fast as factory. I'll wager the only difference is the factory getting the latest SW updates a bit faster, and maybe having better funding/infrastructure.

And the powerful BMW being SO far behind on an HP track like PI, and it being Corser's home track, is worrying too. I'd hoped they'd have stepped it up more. Ditto Aprilia.

roger albert · 02-22-2010, 08:10 AM

And Chris C. What do you think is up with the Yam? Rider downgrade, or a chassis 'upgrade' whose attendant chatter is holding up an otherwise good set of riders and bikes?

There was a year where Yam's MotoGP bikes had consistent chatter, and it never really got fully sorted until the new chassis the next year. Yam's 'magic numbers' seem to put them near or on the edge of chatter, limiting their setup options, regardless of GP or SBK program (their seems to be more relationship between the two, than at any of the other factories).

Chris Canning · 02-22-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by roger albert

And Chris C. What do you think is up with the Yam? Rider downgrade, or a chassis 'upgrade' whose attendant chatter is holding up an otherwise good set of riders and bikes?

There was a year where Yam's MotoGP bikes had consistent chatter, and it never really got fully sorted until the new chassis the next year. Yam's 'magic numbers' seem to put them near or on the edge of chatter, limiting their setup options, regardless of GP or SBK program (their seems to be more relationship between the two, than at any of the other factories).

Well,separate issues,the first is Spies talent,the second neither of the new guys could get on(as in touch the floor) on Spies's bike and have had to start all over again,with new seat/tank/bars,as you can imagine there's heaps more than that(new) to sort,anything more can only be name/rank/serial number!!!.

Chris Canning · 02-22-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by roger albert

Man, it is strange to see the great-package, but not-peak-power-Ducs basically shutting out all other comers on the 2nd day. Looks like a Ducati year. They've sure found something, and the customer ducs look to be just as fast as factory. I'll wager the only difference is the factory getting the latest SW updates a bit faster, and maybe having better funding/infrastructure.

And the powerful BMW being SO far behind on an HP track like PI, and it being Corser's home track, is worrying too. I'd hoped they'd have stepped it up more. Ditto Aprilia.

I can't wait to see what happens with the Ducatis,do the Altea guys have the same kit,you betcha,if they start winning like private Duc teams have in the past,the kit supplied from the factory will change,they'll drop 500 revs off the ECU,just like they've done before,tinker with it,and we'll cut off everything else as well!!!!!!!!!!!.

zx9rmal · 02-22-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by roger albert

And the powerful BMW being SO far behind on an HP track like PI, and it being Corser's home track, is worrying too. I'd hoped they'd have stepped it up more. Ditto Aprilia.

ATTENTION! DR. CURVE HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!!!!!!

Guest24 · 02-22-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zx9rmal

ATTENTION! DR. CURVE HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!!!!!!

Mal, that's why I said what I did about drag racing.

Bob Hancock · 02-22-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OwenM

It’s a bit of a worry when a super powerful “high tech” I4 is 1.2 seconds slower around a fast circuit like Phillip Island than a V twin. What hope does a mere mortal have of getting better performance on the road where top end HP is of no importance.

Oh just STFU.