Center Stand coming loose

MykolG · 01-04-2012, 10:47 AM

The center stand on my 11s is coming loose. Well, actually, it's worse than that. The left side "nut" is gone. I know it's more than just a nut; but don't have a name for it. I found the hex screw on the garage floor. The other part is gone.
Is this a common problem with this bike? My roommate also has a 99 11S and has lost his a couple of times. He rides his bike as a daily driver. I only ride for fun. Mi bike has only 30,000 miles on it and this is the first time. Roommates bike has more than twice that.

bikerfish1100 · 01-04-2012, 10:57 AM

not sure how "common" it is, but it clearly does happen.

1100s nut · 01-04-2012, 10:58 AM

I have never heard of it....but a 13 year old bike anything is possible. I would lock-tight the new fastener when you get it. My rt has 102100 miles on it and I am not aware of happening on it. If it has happened to two people in the same house I would be on the lookout for a bolt thief.

Lane

MykolG · 01-04-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 1100s nut

I have never heard of it....but a 13 year old bike anything is possible. I would lock-tight the new fastener when you get it. My rt has 102100 miles on it and I am not aware of happening on it. If it has happened to two people in the same house I would be on the lookout for a bolt thief.

Lane

I couldn't think of the name "Lock-tight" before but, my roommate did lock-tight his each time. It still came off. I will certainly put it on mine when the parts come in.

And, no. He didn't steal mine.

SergioK · 01-04-2012, 11:09 AM

Yep, that tends to happen. The bolt shears thus leaving you with a loose centerstand. I think they (BMW) even updated the parts eventually. You are better off buying the bolt from the dealer since it's got a unique tapered head.

Guest24 · 11:24 AM

Mine broke off from fatigue. BMW has changed the desigine of the lug with the O-rings from two O-rings to three. These are the parts you need to make it like new again. Don't forget to buy the O-rings, also. Tom picked these up for me. You can see that they come with the thread lock pre-loaded. The replacement uses a torq versus and allen wrench to tighten.

MykolG · 01-04-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SergioK

Yep, that tends to happen. The bolt shears thus leaving you with a loose centerstand. I think they (BMW) even updated the parts eventually. You are better off buying the bolt from the dealer since it's got a unique tapered head.

Thanks, I have the parts on order from the dealer but, want to make sure they stay on the bike. I remember how strange they look from seeing the ones I ordered for the roommates bike.

The bolt [looks like a tapered head screw is the only part I still have] looks more like it just came undone rather than sheering off.

My roommates bolt did shear off both times.

Wish I could safety-wire it on. But, I guess that is "old school" So, which is the best loctite "color" to use on this? I do not wish to do this again.

SergioK · 01-04-2012, 11:27 AM

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I do not wish to do this again.

Just gathering some empirical data here. Do you mount the bike while on the centerstand then rock it it off the CS? Or, do you first put the sidestand down, transition bike off CS to sidestand, then mount bike?

I've heard that many a bolt shears from first mounting bike then rocking it off the CS. Supposedly the extra 200#s of weight adds to the demise of said bolts.

MykolG · 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SergioK

Just gathering some empirical data here. Do you mount the bike while on the centerstand then rock it it off the CS? Or, do you first put the sidestand down, transition bike off CS to sidestand, then mount bike?

I've heard that many a bolt shears from first mounting bike then rocking it off the CS. Supposedly the extra 200#s of weight adds to the demise of said bolts.

Guilty. I mount the bike and rock it off the stand. I'm fearful that it might fall over to the right if I take if off the CS while standing next to it. I did drop it one for a totally different reason and do NOT want to do that again.

Hey Sergio, have you moved up here yet? Have you located a dealer for your parts yet?

Nail, thanks for the photos. I see that my earlier question as to what color of loctite to use has been answered by your photo.

SergioK · 01-04-2012, 11:42 AM

Yep, I've been relocated from the beach to the foothills... ugh! I'm still not accepting it! Heck, I still go to Long Beach BMW for all my service & parts too (helps that I'm down there every week anyway). I actually need to take the GS in again... seal on the FD is leaking, again.

MykolG · 01-04-2012, 11:51 AM

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Yep, I've been relocated from the beach to the foothills... ugh! I'm still not accepting it! Heck, I still go to Long Beach BMW for all my service & parts too (helps that I'm down there every week anyway). I actually need to take the GS in again... seal on the FD is leaking, again.

ah, I use Hollywood Honda/BMW. They have a mechanic there [who happens to be a friend of mine] who works on most of the LEO bikes in the area [including Arcadia about 30 miles away]. He's the resident boxer guru. Really knows his stuff.

SergioK · 01-04-2012, 12:01 PM

Is there a secret handshake for über discounts on parts?

MykolG · 01-04-2012, 12:08 PM

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Is there a secret handshake for über discounts on parts?

He helps me out a lot but, I'm afraid of putting his job at risk.

I doubt he ever gets any traffic tickets. hahaha

ricky racer · ricky racer's Garage

I had to fix mine last summer. The bolt broke and I had to replace the bolt.

1100s nut · 01-04-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SergioK

Just gathering some empirical data here. Do you mount the bike while on the centerstand then rock it it off the CS? Or, do you first put the sidestand down, transition bike off CS to sidestand, then mount bike?

I've heard that many a bolt shears from first mounting bike then rocking it off the CS. Supposedly the extra 200#s of weight adds to the demise of said bolts.

I used to do this on my GS. I would just put it in gear and clutch it off. One time I popped the bike up a little and it came back down on the C/S, bone jarring jolt....I never did that again afetr that.

I am pretty sure I will never have a C/S problem on my boxercup

flatbutt · 01-06-2012, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MykolG

Guilty. I mount the bike and rock it off the stand. I'm fearful that it might fall over to the right if I take if off the CS while standing next to it. I did drop it one for a totally different reason and do NOT want to do that again.Hey Sergio, have you moved up here yet? Have you located a dealer for your parts yet?

Nail, thanks for the photos. I see that my earlier question as to what color of loctite to use has been answered by your photo.

Boy do I hear you on this! I have near zero strength in my right arm so dropping to the right is very easy for me to do. BUT here is how I avoid that when moving off of the CS.
I start with the sidestand down.
I turn the front wheel hard right, all the way to the lock.
Then when I push the bike forward using my legs (my right shin is against the back of the left jug) I'm pushing my left hand hard into the handlebars.
When the bike comes down it turns to the right and tips into my right hip.

Try it. With two strong arms you'll do better than I do.

Guest24 · 01-06-2012, 06:08 AM

I move my bike off the CS onto the side stand and then get on. I have done the motorized launch but it has it's hazards for a height challenged rider like me.

jduke · 01-06-2012, 07:08 AM

After I replaced the bolts TWICE, I started greasing anything that moved on the center stand and side stand every time I changed the oil.
Problem solved.

RBMann · 01-07-2012, 10:21 AM

I have had it happen twice, and carry a spare with me when traveling. I park on a hill at work and mount it before taking it off the stand. Thanks for reminding me to check everything while I have it apart for another issue.

In regards to mounting or not mounting before coming off the CS, what is the cost of a new saddle bag lid, mirror, side pod, valve cover or back sprain compared to a CS bolt?

SergioK · 01-07-2012, 12:49 PM

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In regards to mounting or not mounting before coming off the CS, what is the cost of a new saddle bag lid, mirror, side pod, valve cover or back sprain compared to a CS bolt?

I've never had an issue with taking the bike off the CS onto the SS. Even when loaded with full bags and top bag filled with all my camping gear. Who lacks the upper body strength to nudge the bike towards themselves? Really?