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Zack S. 01-20-2010 05:01 PM

1st to 2nd shift problem
 
And 3rd to 2nd- especially when cold, it doesn't want to engage into 2nd, gets better as it warms up. Lately has been infrequently popping out of 2nd gear also. Any quick fixes, or is it tranny time? Oh yeah- it's a 2001 S 6 speed.

Dai 01-22-2010 01:51 PM

That is a common problem with the 6 speed tranny. I installed the Evo aluminum shift link and it really helps me shifting into 2nd in winter. It is still stiff but it doesn't pop out if I firmly shift into 2nd.

Porsche_Daddy 01-23-2010 09:34 AM

You might want to consider changing the gear oil in the transaxle as well to either a Royal Purple or Redline product. It will help the shift action, particulary when cold.

911ballin 02-02-2010 02:50 PM

i have exact same car 3.2s 02 same problem! the guy that bought new linkage post photo or brand and where to buy it will love to give it try before replace clutch or even rebuilt a trany i hope is not case 80k miles!

Dai 02-03-2010 09:26 AM

O.K. This is what I bought.

Evolution Motorsports Billet Shift Linkage > PORSCHE - Porsche 986 Boxter / S - :: RENNSPORT ONE :: Fusing ones innermost passion with the Motorsports lifestyle!

I also have B&M short shifter along with this Evo shift link. It definitely helped my shifting. Our host also carry them.

Wayne 962 02-08-2010 02:44 PM

Short shift kits tend to make this worse. Also, there is an alignment jig for the shift cables that you can use to try to align them. I don't have the part number handy, but I have one in my garage, I will try to dig it out later on.

-Wayne

Matt Monson 02-09-2010 11:26 AM

If it's got the 2nd gear popout issue it's going to need to be gone through to remedy it. You want to send it/take it to someone very familiar with the 996 street and Boxster S issues. It requires a 50 ton press and some specialized knowledge to go through it and repair it so that it doesn't happen again. There's a design flaw with the box that needs to be addressed to make it right and just buying new service parts from the dealer will eventually get you back to the same place. There's guys who do G50's all day long who don't know how to fix this box properly. Given your location I would take it to Bobby Hart at California Motorsports in Havasu City. He's one of the guys who figured out the problems early on and has been fixing them longer than most. Tell him that I sent you.

Regards,

Matt Monson
Guard Transmission LLC

Wayne 962 02-09-2010 04:25 PM

Try putting Swepco in it first. I know it's a long shot, but many people have told me that this works miracles for situations like this...

-Wayne

Dai 02-10-2010 10:34 AM

Actually, Wayne is right because I also had the fluid flushed out and replaced. My mechanic did use Swepco for the replacement fluid. I guess the combination of aluminum shift link and Swepco cured the popped out in second for me even when it is really cold outside. First to second gear is not the smoothest when it is cold but it doesn't popped out anymore.

911ballin 02-10-2010 10:41 AM

what kind swepco?? post link or item also what kind linkage?? how many galons or quantiity 6speed tranny needs? i will give it shot!

Wayne 962 02-11-2010 12:47 AM

Swepco 201:

Porsche Boxster (2005-2008) - Transmission - Page 2

From the new book:

Quote:

The five-speed transmission holds about 2.25 liters (2.4 quarts), and the six-speed transmission holds 2.8 liters (3.0 quarts).
-Wayne

Zack S. 02-11-2010 09:34 PM

UPDATE- Thanks to all for the help! Changed fluid to swepco, and by god it worked! When the mechanic took out the old he said it had the consistency of water. Would have done it myself, but i'm in the middle of a 911 rebuild at the moment, so I have no spare jackstands! Goes into gear like it should, and no more popping out, I was very skeptical, but it did the trick! BTW, car has 75K on it, and wasn't ever done.

lilredpo 02-12-2010 04:14 AM

Not to hijack this thread but.....

I don't have a 'popping out' issue, rather sometimes it is difficult to get it in.

To 3rd that is. Found some advice on alignment and shift kits, but ot where they specifically address this issue.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Porsche_Daddy 02-12-2010 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilredpo (Post 5181143)
Not to hijack this thread but.....

I don't have a 'popping out' issue, rather sometimes it is difficult to get it in.

To 3rd that is. Found some advice on alignment and shift kits, but ot where they specifically address this issue.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

I wouldn't recommend a shift kit that shortens the throw. They increase shift effort, not decrease it. I would take out your center console and check for any obvious problems and binding and you run through the gears. Try adjusting the shift cables as well. Also change to a gear lube like Redline and it should help smooth it out. You didn't mention it, but if it grinds going in to 3rd as well that would be indicitive of a syncro issue.

lilredpo 02-12-2010 10:23 AM

Thanks for your input, good points. No grinding, just trouble slipping in. Thanks again.

911ballin 02-12-2010 07:41 PM

i will like to give it try swepco, changing oil tranny is somthing i want to do my self what tools i will need how difficult it is! can someone really nice can post easy instructions how do it!please!!thanks

Wayne 962 02-12-2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zack S. (Post 5181005)
UPDATE- Thanks to all for the help! Changed fluid to swepco, and by god it worked! When the mechanic took out the old he said it had the consistency of water. Would have done it myself, but i'm in the middle of a 911 rebuild at the moment, so I have no spare jackstands! Goes into gear like it should, and no more popping out, I was very skeptical, but it did the trick! BTW, car has 75K on it, and wasn't ever done.

Cool, another data point to add into the column of happy customer. The Swepco stuff does seem to work wonders sometimes.

-Wayne

Matt Monson 02-16-2010 10:01 AM

At 75k mi on the original fill, anything fresh would be better than what was in there. ;)

This is not to detract from the Swepco. Just saying that the Swepco isn't so much the fix as the old worn out gearoil was clearly the problem.

911ballin 03-12-2010 05:01 PM

well at 84k in my s the trasmission fluid wasa original! i put sewpco it help still have stiff second gear i need new clutch fro fact but not have money fro new trannt yet,, but maybe driving car 1- 30 miles later swepco will work better i only drove car 5 miles and parke with ne tranny oil feels better! picshttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1268445631.jpg
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911ballin 03-12-2010 05:04 PM

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