LN Engineering Low Temp insert

[randy_k]

I'm sorry if this has been asked before. If so I can't find it. But has anyone had any experience with the 160 degree thermostat insert from LN engineering.
If so? Pros and cons?
thanks, Randy

[JFP in PA]

All pro’s, no con’s. We have many customers running it, not one owner has every commented negatively on the install.

[mcmike27]

+1 on JFP's comments...along with the new T-stat if needed replace the water pump and for a minimal investment upgrade to a 'S' type oil cooler. It's almost twice the size of the non 'S' units and all you need is a new set of 'O' rings to install it. Direct bolt on.

[randy_k]

Thanks JFP and Mike. Mike have the S oil cooler sitting on my work bench. Just accumulating parts so all this can be done at once.
Thanks again, Randy

[randy_k]

OK, Before I order 160 degree insert and not the whole enchilada thermostat wise. Any reason I should get 160 Degree housing complete? And any acssocited hoses I should get. I only want to do this once...
Randy

[JFP in PA]

Unless you own the tool required to remove and replace the stat from your current housing, you would probably be better getting the assembled unit, which also comes with a new gasket which you will also need.

[randy_k]

JFP, Looks like according to there site. The tool is included? I just need to purchase the gasket.

Price includes new low temperature thermostat insert manufactured in Germany by one of the same manufacturers that makes the oe thermostat insert, allowing you to reuse your original housing. Gasket (1 required) sold separately. Includes the special tool required to change insert out. Provides increased cooling capacity increasing power while ensuring consistent performance and extending engine-component longevity.
Randy


http://www.lnengineering.com/store/catalog/160f-temperature-insert-tool-bundle-p-161.html

[randy_k]

Thermostat insert ordered. Can you tell me what hoses connect to it I need? I can't tell by the diagrams of hoses.
Hope everyone had a great 4th!!!
Randy

[clickman]

To change out the thermostat you don't need any hoses unless the ones you have are leaking or cracking.

[Wayne 962]

Regarding the low temp thermostat, there are some things that should be noted:

- The thermostat sends coolant earlier to the front radiators, but the fans don't kick in any earlier (unless you reprogram the ECU, or trick it with different sensors), so don't expect too much cooling when idling in traffic.

- Porsche supposedly ran the higher temps in the motor to help burn off water and other contaminants that were inside the oil. So, if you use the low-temp thermostat, reduce your oil change intervals to about 5,000 or so.

There shouldn't be any real downsides to the installation...

-Wayne

[randy_k]

Thanks click and Wayne. Ya, I'm aware of the fans not coming on any sooner. And I had planned on doing the oil changes more frequently even without the new T-Stat.
As far as the hose's are concerned. When I replaced the drive belt earlier this year. I reached down to where the T-Stat is and the hose felt soft. Sign of needing to be changed. Plus, You don't know my luck. As soon as I try to remove the hose. Something will go bad and the hose will get destroyed. I just how things go with me. My experience with things is Murphy was an optimist. I'll also probably be replacing the water pump as well. So any hoses that are in the immediate vicinity I would like to change while it's apart. This will also be the time when the S-Cooler gets installed that I have one hand. Just want to drain the fluids once and be done with it.
Thanks for your help gentleman as usual.
Randy

[mcmike27]

Randy, while you upgrading and replacing nows a great time to clean and inspect the front rads for debris....you would not have believed the crap I pulled out of mine. Cleaned and washed them out and the back sides of the A/C conden's at the same time. Well worth the 1.5 hours needed to yank the front nose off.

[randy_k]

Ya Mike. That's in the playbook as well. As the front bumper and hood are coming off for a repaint. Great time to address those as well. This thing is probably going to be apart for a couple of weeks during all this. Just get er done is what I say.
Thanks for your input.
Randy

[randy_k]

Ok, found the part number for the water pump hose. It appears to be 996-106-222-17-m253. But the hose for the thermostat is not clearly marked in the parts list as thermostat hose. Here's a pic. It's the hose with the red arrow pointing to it.
Randy

[mcmike27]

Randy, to be exactly sure I'd check with Loren over on RENNTECH.ORG he will know the exact p/n. He will need your model year and make.

[randy_k]

Thanks as usual Mike. I took your advice. Oh and Made sure I used the search function over there first for the obvious reason. LOL You know what I mean I am sure.

[JMatta]

You won't regret changing over to the low temp t-stat. I changed mine, along with new coolant two summers ago and the temp needle never goes beyond the line at 180; even on a 90 degree day. It surely reduces oil temps, which are a good thing and I run Syntec 10W40, as well.

[randy_k]

Thanks Matta. Mike, Posted the question on Renntech as well. Re: part number for that hose a couple of days ago now. Nothing. It's hard to believe that between two different sites no one has replied with the part number for that hose. Someone must have changed it out at one point. Well, I would think so anyway???
Randy

[randy_k]

Well, Thanks to my local Porsche dealer. Here's my bogie...



If you folks need one. The part number is. 996-106-502-06

Randy

[JMatta]

Yeah, here it is on Pelican. I didn't change any of my hoses as they were in excellent condition.

Pelican Parts - Product Information: 996-106-502-06-M100