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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Out there somewhere beyond the doors of perception
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She was slowing up the line anyway. Sure I stepped around her I couldn't step over her..she was so big. It was all I could do not to stop and laugh.
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Haven't read the whole thread, but guys like Jeff, and his actions more than make up for the rest of the pack imo. Around here...."events" such as that seem to bring out the best in a lot of folks too imo. I do think the urban/big city environments changes the mindset for many....here too unfortunately, but there are "good people" everywhere...
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: SF Bay Area
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This is actually covered in CPR/First Aid Training, or at least those that I've attended. People don't know what to do. Bystander effect. Yada Yada Yada. Your task is to bark orders if you stepped up to the plate.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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Haven't had a chance to read through all yet, but will do as I have some time later tonight. One thing I experienced through this was, I too was panicking even through this was not a family member, but was trying to help and do my best. I has a hard time lifting a limp body by myself, without hurting her. Forget about barking orders, I was not even thinking about that at the time. Now that many of you mentioned that, I know better next time, but its easier said then done during the situation of panic and just not knowing what to do but lift the person off the ground.
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Ky, USA
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A similar thing happened to me a year or two ago. I was at a small fried fish kind of place getting lunch. A old guy suddenly falls out of his chair onto the floor and starts foaming at the mouth. Me and another guy from another table get up to check on him. Everyone else just sat there looking and eating. Well, except for his wife that was muttering "Oh Jesus, oh jesus.", over and over again. I made eye contact with someone sitting down and they said they were calling 911. That was good. The other guy that came over to help wanted to immediately start doing CPR. I was like "Hold on, hes breathing and has a pulse." It was like he just got out of CPR class and wanted to try it out. But at least he jumped into action. Turns out the old guy was having a seizure.
But the whole incident shook me for a few days. The reaction of everyone basically doing nothing, the old guy on the floor looking like hes got some serious issue going on, my own reaction, the other guys mis-diagnosis, the wife freaking out (she was pretty loud and dramatic). It was not something we normally see everyday. Does not apply in this story, but in CPR class, the instructor said "If a person has no pulse and no breathing, you cant hurt them. They're dead. So at least try to do CPR". Made sense to me. |
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In that case, the wife really should have been offering some kind of verbal assistance with regard to medical history or explanation of what was happening to her husband. Unless it was the first time he'd ever had a seizure. My father had them in the immediate years before his death and we always carried tongue depressors with us just in case.
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