Mesmerizing Comparison
 

Holy Moly!

Enjoy the comparison-

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Saw Knopfler race in an old Lotus at the 95 Monterey Historics. One of them 24" high ones from the 50's.

Talked to his crew but he was holed up in the trailer.

This will be in OT in about 3....2....1.

Thanks.

I like Telegraph Road best.

You think he is better than Petty? Just talking. Not a guitar guy.

Yeah, sorry, posted in the wrong place and can't figure out how to move it.

Knopfler- the Steve McQueen of the guitar world. In my opinion.

Charles

He's has slippery fingers. :)

Maybe the mods will go easy on you. I think this is pertinent. I also think Knopfler has been in a 911 so there you go.

Not sure what that means... That he's king of cool or slightly overrated ?
Either way comparison wise, not sure what you wanted to hear but I just spent 21 minutes on both and enjoyed that a lot. BRought back a ton of memories... First famous band I ever saw live, first band whose record I ever bought, and then the whole lot in CDs when CDs were invented... I remember my parents wondering if I was on drugs on something when I was playing telegraph road full blast in my room, in the dark, lying on my bed, to appreciate it more... (i wasn't ;-)

Haven't followed what happened to them but they just stopped at some point ? Too bad...

>"Igneous Aquam et Laudi semper"

Fire water and Cindy Lauper ? ;-) (sorry I studied greek, not latin ;-)

answering my own Q:

In 2007, Knopfler said he did not miss the global fame that came his way at the height of the band's success, explaining that "It just got too big." In October 2008, John Illsley told the BBC that he wanted Knopfler to agree to reform Dire Straits for a comeback tour. Knopfler declined, saying that he was often reluctant to reform the group and insisted that he "isn't even a fan of Dire Straits' early hits." In the same interview, Illsley also suggested that Knopfler is enjoying his continued success as a solo artist, saying that "He's doing incredibly well as a solo artist, so hats off to him. He's having a perfectly good time doing what he's doing." Guy Fletcher stated on his website that Knopfler has no interest in reforming Dire Straits.

Oh well... they left some good music behind !

Yes. I like them both, but love/prefer Knopfler's sound.

EDIT: and I agree, HOLY MOLY

HaHa - Close enough! :)

I personally fall into the Uber Kool adulation category.

I've listened to both versions many times. Initially I liked the second best. But I've changed my mind. The first version is edgy-raw-youthful. The second has, in my opinion, better guitar work by Knopfler and is sublime- but has lost the power of the more youthful person. Still, both are masterful works.

Charles

Slightly off-topic, but check out the cover of Sultans of Swing by Leo Moracchioli (Frog Leap Studios). Brilliant.

I'm also a big Dire Straits fan. Making Movies is my favorite album. The guitar solo in "Tunnel of Love" is awesome.

Although I admired Tom Petty as one of the best song writers of my era, Mark Knopfler's guitar playing is at least an order-of-magnitude better than Petty's...IMHO that is.
It was actually Mike Campbell who handled most of the lead guitar work for The Heartbreakers, with Petty on vocals and second guitar.

I remember hearing Knopfler's distinct sound on Sultans as a freshman in college...hooked from the git-go...particularly the early years. Communique (2nd album) recorded in Muscle Shoals is my favorite DS. Another all-time favorite....Dylan's Infidels...'83 or so with Knopfler and Mick Taylor on guitars....another favorite Stone ;)

There are a lot of very good technical players out there and there are a ton of shredders out there. There aren't a lot that can play and let the emotion through, especially slow.

All hail fire and water?

It was our high school latin class motto as drafted and popularized by my classmate and friend- Carl Muckley (RIP)-

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Fire water and broads forever. (What else would you expect from a 15 year old) SmileWavy

I swear she let a big truck grease her hip

Their first album, 'Dire Straits" in 1978 was incredible. "Sultans of Swing" is arguably the least appealing track on the LP.

'Brothers in Arms' is better yet.

Knopfler is a joy:

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The 1st one for me.

Fire water and Cindy Lauper ? ;-) (sorry I studied greek, not latin ;-)


Hey I WAS close enough, Cyndi Lauper is a broad ;-)

Good thread, I've been playing Dire straits all day now, good day to work from home !

You can't recapture the old magic (the Straits) ..and time waits for NO ONE.

They can do a mega tour and capture the nostalgia genre like the B Boys or Stones..but it aint the same seein Jagger with his walker on stage as it was seein him back in the day prancin around like he was Jack Flash...

Do yourself a favor:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1530570491.jpg

'Romeo and Juliet' is songcraft at a very high level. Knowing the story behind it, I have yet to see Mark perform the song in a way that his pain/suffering/sadness is not obvious and very real even now, 35 years later.

This gave me goosebumps. Truly breathtaking.

Can't watch it and appreciate it....mobile phone :(. Besides....it ain't note fer note like the album....nor the volume...
....see y'all...thanks for the prod ;)!!!!

I’m not clicking on any of these links. If I do I’ll be up all night with the headphones on.
It’s hotter than the hinges of hell here, not fit to be outside pst noon. Tomorrow afternoon I’ll mix a shaker of cocktails and revisit this thread. I am so looking forward to it.

He’s good but I prefer Stevie Ray Vaughn, check out this sound check at 1’30”

https://youtu.be/grBmQwLSlDw

I don't know enough about playing a guitar to say "this guy is better than that guy" or anything like that. All that I can really do is have an opinion.

I liked both of the guitarists in the first post. Which I liked better would probably depend upon my mood or what I was doing when I listened.

I do love SRV.

I assume that at a very high level there are some players that are naturally talented and can make a guitar do things that surprise people. I assume there are also folks at a very high level that have trained and trained and are technical masters. Are there folks that are a mix of both and therefore surpass either of the other two?

Music and playing an instrument, I have to think is greatest when it's about feeling/emotion. I never learned to play anything. I've got good rhythm and coordination, but I don't think I have the ear for it. I'll just keep enjoying what other folks are doing.

Yep- I'd say you nailed it:)

Well said, and normally I'd agree. But in this particular case, Knopfler has moved on, and he knows it. The guitar work is much more refined in the second. It is a different version, some will like the first more, some the second- it is a matter of opinion. I myself have flip-flopped between the two- which is why I decided you guys might like to ponder the same conundrum- raw talent Vs refined elegance- or something to that effect.

Charles :)

In my opionion the debut album Dire Straits, side 1, five songs including `Down to the waterline`, `Water of love`, Setting me up`, Six blade knife`is the epitome of what carved out my guitar and music stile. The rythm and very special guitar picking on those songs are truly one of a kind.

OK...so I listened to Making Movies, Communique, then Knopler on Infidels last evening....all were in one of my players....now I gotta go find that first release....:).