Originally Posted by Reiver (Post 10156214)

Was it 'gutsy' or 'ballsy'? Here is a solid definition...

Guts vs Balls

There is a medical distinction between
“Guts” and “Balls”, according to the British military.

We've heard colleagues referring to people with “Guts”, or with
“Balls”. Do they, however, know the difference between
them? Here’s the official distinction; straight from the
British Medical Journal: Volume 323; page 295.

GUTS - Is arriving home late, after a night out with the lads, being
met by your wife with a broom, and having the “Guts” to ask:
“Are you still cleaning, or are you flying somewhere?”

BALLS - Is coming home late after a night out with the lads, smelling
of perfume and beer, lipstick on your collar, slapping your
wife on the bum and having the “Balls” to say:
"You're next, Chubby."

I trust this clears up any confusion.

Originally Posted by TimT (Post 10155974)

I do not agree, it is a clean pass, if you check the video... he has two wheels in the dirt, two still on asphalt...

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 10155835)

That Zanardi pass really shouldn't have been allowed. All 4 wheels off the track constitutes a "short cut"..

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10156603)

Ha, ha, no

I quit following CART after that race

Originally Posted by madcorgi (Post 10156240)

You win the internet for that post, Pat! Bravo!:D

Say what you will about CART, I flat out loved it before the split. Beautiful cars, different manufacturers, different engines. Some of the greatest racing ever. Took my son at age 5 to watch the Portland race back in 1999, and saw a sophomore driver named Helio Castro-neves (he still had a hyphen back then) set some incredible laps in the rain. Saw Greg Moore, driving by on a moped, say hi to my son. Saw a great race, won by de Ferran.

This year Indycar is back at Portland, and he's going with me again. He's 6 feet tall now, so I'm not gonna carry him like I did in 1999!

Originally Posted by minoclan (Post 10156608)

Agree totally

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10156260)

If this is allowed why not just cut across to the other side and save a lap?
The track outline is just a suggestion?
Start here, end there, and get to it by any means?
All grey area?

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10156731)

I was there as well, with my then eleven and eight year old sons. We also caught a couple of ALMS races there in the same time frame. I didn't realize the Indy cars had returned. I'll have to check it out and see if maybe I can talk the boys into going again. Good times, with some great racing.